The new research is the first to measure community water fluoridation exposure during childhood and any potential impact on cognition up to age 80.
The paper is here
Alternative headline: Science disproves well known conspiracy theory again; conspiracy theorists deny evidence.
yeah I felt that way with the tynlenol one the other day. Its like we are using resources for this. ugh.
Honestly, I don’t mind spending resources on this. Yes it turned out that the expected results were the ones we got, but until you do the study, you can’t be sure you won’t get unexpected results. Plus, once you’ve collected the data, it sometimes shows unrelated patterns that you wouldn’t otherwise have been able to see.
people don’t understand science at all.
It’s not a ‘do it once and it’s the truth forever’ type of thing. It’s a perpetual process. You are SUPPOSED TO REPEAT STUDIES. Result replication is the point. You also re-do studies to create new datasets, see if baselines have shifted etc.
The notion science is some system of eternal truths is not science. That’s Scientism… where science has been elevated to a extra-empirical authority.
It’s also why you do experiments in science class… and you compare results.
anyway, a couple of times I tried to explain this to people, even as a teacher, and they basically told me that means science is stupid and worthless if that is how you are suppose to do it. people generally, do not think science is an empirical process, they think it should be revelatory, like the ten commandments.
I’m all for replacing fluoride in water with ethanol. It lowers IQ, damages teeth, and fosters violence, but it’d be a lot more fun than fluoride.
But a MAGA coworker told me Fluoride is bad according to new studies. When asked for specifics the answer was read the studies.
I always assume if MAGA says something is bad, then it’s good.
Blind squirrels eventually find nuts.
Like knowing that there are pedophiles in the Epstein files.
But having healthy teeth will prolong your life statistically so…
But IQ DOES have a long term effect on fluoridation!
But it does have an effect on dental health! A positive one!
HEALTHY TEETH AND GUMS ARE THE FIRST STEP OF THE TRANS IDEOLOGY.
I grew up in Moscow in the 80s, I think they tried fluoride in the water, but it wasn’t nearly enough to make a difference.
As a child, my teeth were atrocious. Constant cavities despite brushing and not eating a ton of sweets and never even trying soda.
After I moved here at 18, my teeth got significantly better. I’m glad there is fluoride in the water!
So why is this news coming out now? We are good without flouride .
Because researchers got data. We know flouride helps prevent tooth decay, and a bunch of Republicans are lying about it so they can harm kids
Our teeth aren’t good without fluoride.
What about autoimmune diseases and inflammation? It looks like there might be a link, but they haven’t studied it enough.
Maybe, but the study you linked is specifically studying people who get way more than the highest recommended amount of fluoride and have fluorosis
I didn’t think it would but I still don’t want it in my water.
I want flouride toothpaste, flouride rinses and free teeth care for children though.
I still don’t want it in my water
Why?
If you buy spring water do you check the fluoride content to make sure it’s below a certain threshold? Magnesium, Calcium, Potassium?
Why would I want an adjunct in my water? I have no need for it, I don’t want the government wasting money on it.
It does very little for adult teeth, and is barely a blip compared to the effects of dental care and fluoride toothpaste for children.
If you feel differently, feel free to add it to your water.
97% of Europe does not fluoridate their water. Of the seven countries with the lowest tooth decay rates in children in the world, six have no water fluoridation programs.
Finally in the US there have been four fairly serious fluoride accidents. Also, phosphate rock mining and processing is very hazardous so if you are going to use Flouride use it purposefully, in a toothpaste or rinse, not just distributing it into water. Which, by the way, kids don’t drink a whole lot of.
Why would I want an adjunct in my water?
To protect the teeth of your neighbour’s kids.
I don’t want the government wasting money on it.
Is it a waste of money? It seems quite plausibly cheaper than your suggestion. In Canada we have implemented a national dental care program for people earning under a certain threshold. I think anything we can do to improve the sustainability of that program is a good idea.
So why is it that 6 of the 7 countries with the lowest amount of caivities do not flouridate their water? Throwing floride around into a substance you use for everything is a poor approach to a problem.
Because you don’t understand the alleged statistics you’re citing, you don’t understand that flouride is naturally present in most freshwater, that Europe has a different history of how they consume water, and water fluoridation is actually a brilliant approach.
I do understand the statistics, but I also acknowledge that many cities in Europe have varying levels of flouride in the water and saying “country” does not take into account variations within countries.
At the same time many places in the world are contaminated with flouride. There is a sweet spot for efficacy of course.
I am not saying fluoride isn’t helpful. But adding it to water? No thanks. Both places I live do not do this, and neither have higher instances of cavities than anywhere else (given relative incomes, lifestyle, and health care).
Besides I will say it again, since when do kids drink water?
The fact that you’re still making these ludicrous claims show tbat you don’t understand the statistics, kiddo.
Adding it to water is cheap and effective, no matter how much you shriek otherwise.
Do you have any evidence that kids don’t drink water, spud?
sure
Can we trust this study though? Everyone is dumb as shit now, the baseline has degraded, and people are more docile. Something is going on, somethings. I wouldn’t absolve flouride that crystallizes in the decision making part of the brain, and it in the soil and food to a huge degree, from aluminum smelting, because of a study. Given, you know, things.
Yeah I don’t care about studies either when my feelings are telling me otherwise.
You should care about the fact that studies will tell you roundup is safe, atrazine is safe, and the like. My sweet summer child, the system is corrupted. If you don’t know that yet, there is little hope for you.
You either need more drugs or less drugs. Whatever level you’re at now is not working.
First of all, the answer is always more and better drugs. That you don’t know that indicts your understanding!
Second of all, you have no idea what you are defending, you trust the establishment and follow their lead. I would argue at this point to not question what you are told by the experts exposes you for a fool.
Yeah what do the experts know?
