The new research is the first to measure community water fluoridation exposure during childhood and any potential impact on cognition up to age 80.

The new research is the first to measure community water fluoridation exposure during childhood and any potential impact on cognition up to age 80.

The paper is here

  • Exatron@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    The fact that you’re still making these ludicrous claims show tbat you don’t understand the statistics, kiddo.

    Adding it to water is cheap and effective, no matter how much you shriek otherwise.

    Do you have any evidence that kids don’t drink water, spud?

    • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
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      8 days ago

      Ludicrous claims? Kiddo?

      Blah blah. You have nothing to say then.

      Given that you can even question that there hasn’t been a shift away from tap water tells me you don’t know what you are talking about.

      But keep saying kiddo, you sound very smart.

      With our screenings and health care programs, without floridated water, we beat every floridated community BY FAR.

      We are talking 4 to 10 times (depending on who you compare us to) better for our children.

      So, you want to flouridate water, or do you want a program with effective results?

      I don’t understand why you would even argue this.

      Look: the point is simple. Education and outreach. Deliver flouride deliberately and with specific doses. Monitor outcomes. This is how you have good results and long term health care.

      Just pumping it into water is not as effective. We know that.

        • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
          01·
          7 days ago

          Do you? I am not arguing flouride is ineffective. I am arguing that you get much better results from a concerted effort rather than, just throw it in the water and hope for the best. The science is behind me.

          Even in YOUR citation:

          Most countries in Europe have experienced substantial declines in cavities without the use of water fluoridation due to the introduction of fluoridated toothpaste and the large use of other fluoride-containing products, including mouthrinse, dietary supplements, and professionally applied or prescribed gel, foam, or varnish. For example, in Finland and Germany, tooth decay rates remained stable or continued to decline after water fluoridation stopped in communities

          We have gone way beyond the average by our methods.

          Also, just for fun the article you posted suggests that cavities are up to 50 percent genetic. That is interesting. Even more reason to treat the individual instead of just dumping flouride in the water.

          Also: do look up the research in the us about tap water avoidance particularly among minorities and poor people. There are peer reviewed papers. Let me tell you, the most needed demographic for floridated water is actively avoiding tap water.

          • Exatron@lemmy.world
            1·
            5 days ago

            Specifically, you’re making a claim and working backwards from there, buttercup. The science is completely unkown to you. You’re no different than the antivaxxers. You cherry pick what you thinks supports your preconceived notions and ignore the context of what you’re looking at.

            You’re ignoring that we’re not Europe. We don’t do dental care the way they do. If you want that, that’s fine, but you don’t get to ignore the reality of how it currently works here.

            And let’s see you provide that alleged research about tapwater avoidance, champ.

            • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
              11·
              5 days ago

              Nope. Specifically you are making a claim and I can cite your sources defending mine. Which is simply: I do not want flouride in my water, and a flouridation program is more effective.

              I am not cherry picking, in fact you did, but it also supports my claim.

              Where I live we have 4 to 10x better results than floridated water.

              I am not ignoring anything, I am using data that proves we are doing well without floridated water.

              You said “we are not Europe”, well we are all over the world on this forum. I don’t know where “here” is but it sounds like you ignore science and ignore helping your citizens for a cost effective high outcome situation.

              I am not going to do your work shithead. All of your responses have been ignorant, it’s time you put in the effort. Go look it up yourself.

              I don’t get why this is hard for you to ubderstand. I keep telling you I am ok with flouride, just be smart about it for the best outcome. Which I cited in the page YOU sent to me.

              • Exatron@lemmy.world
                1·
                4 days ago

                You have it backwards again, ssunshine. I’m sorry our education systems failed you so badly.

                You’re making the same soft eugenics mistakes RFK Jr does by assuming that everyone has the same access to dental care.

                None of this is hard for me because I actually understand the science. You don’t, and you’ve demonstrated that repeatedly.

                And I’m still waiting on that alleged “water avoidance” study you keep braying about. Put up or shut up.