That’s actually all… I’ll leave it up to you to speculate on the cure…

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      There should be a cap on how much wealth a person or corporation* is legally allowed to possess. Once their net worth hits $999,999,999.99, it triggers a plug at the bottom of their bank account to open, forever draining** every penny that attempts to exceed that maximum amount.

      *Corporations included because they seem to claim all the rights of personhood

      **and TRULY trickling down to people who actually earn & deserve & need it

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        It doesn’t need to trickle down at all. If the money simply ceases to exist, what little we have becomes much more valuable.

        Burn it all down.

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    There are definetely psychological effects of holding a million or more dollars for long periods of time.

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      I’m feeling a miniature version of this. For the first time in years I have $5,000 in my bank account and nothing I need to buy at the moment, but I’m still frozen because I know I can’t spend it because I know I will eventually need it for something. Imagine feeling this on a billionaire scale. They just keep accruing more & more & they never give it to anyone who desperately needs it because they are hoarding it for some future selfish unknown purpose.

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          1. Tesla Model 3: 172,800 units sold (estimated)
          1. Tesla Model Y: 317,800 units sold (estimated)

        The Model Y is still the bestselling EV in the United States and the seventh bestselling vehicle overall, despite a 22 percent slide compared to 2024, according to Automotive News estimates

        https://www.caranddriver.com/news/g64540955/bestselling-evs-2025/

        The people vote with their wallets, no ones opinion here matters really tbh when in real life people are more than happy to shove 10’s of millions of dollars at the richest man in the world every month

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      When you learn Jeff bezo’s net worth increases several thousand dollars every minute and it happens by exploiting people around the globe, even forcing his own workers to hold their piss for hours so they can meet insane quotas, you think to yourself “what an awesome genius”? Is that possible? You really somehow have made it far enough in life to post on this platform without seeing how absurd this is?

      Even if we take the deeply sick and inhuman idea of money equating success, they already succeeded hard at 2-3 million dollars. Having a billion dollars is like winning a sports game 1000-1 and still being sad that you didn’t win by enough. These people could’ve easily retired at 5 million but they didn’t want that. They need more and more and more. They happily spend millions of dollars on buying politicians so they can get away with paying sub-living wages to their slaves and so they can pay very little in taxes. They display deeply uncharitable behaviors at best and deeply disturbing tendencies often (creating an island used for raping children).

      I really wonder how you could possibly dismiss or ignore all of this. Explain yourself. And you owe it to the community if you’re going to come on here defending the class of people who have consistently ruined human lives throughout history. A billionaire is just a king who drinks from a golden chalice while their tax payers die in the streets. You are saying fuck those dead idiots, the king is great. What the fuck is that? Why would you do it? What could you possibly get out of this?

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          Lol that’s your response? Pretty safe to say you’re a Nazi after that. Thanks for letting me know!!

          You just not only said “life is fair” but that you don’t provide much value to society.

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          People become billionaires because they own capital which extracts massive amounts of value from production processes by paying workers less than the value their labour produces.

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      Hoarding a resource (money) when other people are starving, homeless and dying of preventable diseases.

      If we see that behavior in any other species we would classify it as some kind of divergent behavior.

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        Hey I’m no big supporter of billionaires but “that behavior in any other species we would classify it as some kind of divergent behavior” is extremely wrong. Altruism is extremely rare outside humans. Most animals would absolutely love to get every single piece of food in the forest all to themselves. They steal food from each other constantly. Whole species are based on the very concept of stealing as their main or sole life strategy. There are fish out there whose main food is the juveniles of the exact same fish species. Literal baby-eating as their main strategy.

        We humans are supposed to be better than animals. Comparing someone to an animal is comparing them to something bad.

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          If you saw a single bear successfully hoarding 98% of the food supply of an entire forest, you’d have to be a fucking moron to fail to classify them as a detrimental anomaly.

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            They don’t do that because they physically can’t. If they could they would. If you have two starving bears and throw them one carcass. Only one will eat because they will fight and scream away the weaker one.

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              Yet billionaires can. Interesting how you are willing to work so hard to completely miss the point. How stupid do you choose to be?

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                The original point is that billionaires, as I interpret it, is that billionaires are worse than animals. Or at least that if we look at billionaires as if they were animals we would still diagnose them as ill. My point is that that’s not true. Animals can be just as psychotic. Most have absolutely no morals and a subset of them regularly do things that are way worse than what the billionaires are doing, hence my examples.

                However animals are not humans. Billionaires are humans. If we say billionaires are like animals that’s already a really bad grade. We humans are supposed to be much better than that. I’m not defending billionaires at all. I’m saying one should compare them to something else. There are much better and more effective ways to criticize them than this.

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            if the other 98% of the bears gave their food supply to the 1 bear with 98% of the supply because the bear with the food supply gave them cheap Labubu’s you’d probably just say yeah that’s their culture

            And tbh this discussion seems to come back to the American bear species almost all of the time

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              Again, you would have to be a fucking moron to fail to classify them as the shitstain anomaly they would be.

              Just because you are so stupid as to dismiss such a thing as ‘culture’ does not mean I would.

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        Why aren’t you spending all your money and time on helping others then?

        The money you earn would find around zilion uses in helping others.

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          Because most people are working class and need the money they earn to keep themselves and their loved ones alive, if they can even afford that under capital’s starvation wages.

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          It’s one thing for a working person to spend whatever income they don’t need to live at a baseline on others, it’s another for someone to hoard so much money they couldn’t necessarily physically spend it all if they tried, let alone spend it on things that would actually measurably increase their happiness.

          You can argue regular people should donate more, and many actually do donate more than billionaires (as a % of assets/income) depending on which source you trust to give a good enough picture, (given a lot of donations are hard to track, both from large billionaire foundations and DAFs, to smaller donors with hard to classify spending) but there is a massive gap in how much a regular person can donate relative to a rich person, even just as a % of their income.

          If you live paycheck to paycheck, but have, say, $20 left over at the end of the month in actual money to your name that hasn’t already gone to groceries, rent, etc, (and we assume you have no other assets), your net worth is $20.

          If a billionaire donates $999,000,000 to charity, that would be the equivalent of that person donating $19.98.

          Unlike that person though, the billionaire would have a million dollars in net worth, enough money to buy a house, while the regular person would have $0.02.

          Even if these conditions aren’t perfect, and you assume maybe the person has some more net worth than $20, the point still stands. A billionaire can give up almost all of their net worth and still have enough money to comfortably live, or at least meet basic living standards for the average person. For most Americans, if they lose their job, have any surprise bill, or don’t make as much money as they expected to, they will instantly become homeless the next month rent is due, even if they give up none of their existing assets and just stop adding more money on top.

          This is why “billionairism” (not a real term ofc) is such a damaging condition. It not only causes you to become obsessed with hoarding wealth that you don’t necessarily need, but it causes you to do so at the expense of others you could readily help without experiencing any material downside in your everyday life. There is no reason to hoard so much wealth.

          Money is just a means to get or do things. If you are not spending that money, and you have more money than you’ll ever need to spend, that excess dollar value past your realistic spending for the rest of your life is just a valueless number to you. It’s a number that will never impact your life, but it can impact others. Hoarding it is stupid and immoral.

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          Never thought I’d see the day someone actually propose Voodoo Economics seriously, ie. Thatcher’s and Reagan’s policies. Fuck that shit

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          If I had any, I wouldnt. Me and the type I keep in my company, would go broke giving it away. Thats why were not billionaires. Money isnt a god.

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        Hoarding a resource (money)

        Why do you talk like capitalism is feudalism?

        people are WILLINGLY giving THEIR MONEY to BILLIONAIRES in exchange for GOODS AND/OR SERVICES

        If you don’t want billionaires to get richer convince people to not use Amazon/Google/Microsoft/Apple etc

        You’ll find very quickly that most people are not only ok with billionaires they love the services they are provided and don’t even think about it

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          People want cheap products in order to live affordable lives, companies owned by billionaires are the only ones capable of the scale required to achieve that so it’s not like people have a choice.

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            People want cheap products in order to live affordable lives

            These are excuses people tell themselves to make themselves feel better while they order Nikes and Labubu’s off of Amazon

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              If someone wants some nice shoes or a doll why shouldn’t they be allowed to get one? There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, all consumption is apart of the same system.

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      You’re either disingenuous, or stupid

      There are no ethical billionaires. They get there by shitting on people and exploitation of the vulnerable