My personal thought here is that if any choice I have in a mobile device won’t let me control the device the way I want, install what I want, etc I’m gonna get the one that looks nicer. And as much as I dislike iPhones, they do look nicer. I’m getting screwed either way; might as well get screwed by something pretty.

Because if Android just becomes iOS But Worse, what’s even the point of using it instead of iOS?

– Frost

Because my last pixel had the problem where overheating made Bluetooth and WiFi fail, and Google asked me for the price of a new device to fix it.

Because if they switch to iOS they’ll at least be able to get pussy.

Coming from someone who is currently on GrapheneOS, if Google kills it I’m going to Apple. At least then everyone I knwlow will shut the fuck up about iMessage.

I don’t see a reason to jump yet, but they’re getting close… The day they kill Termux and Tasker I’m out - at that point it will be making a choice between:

A) A piece of shit
B) A piece of shit that at least has some degree of security and probably isn’t mining and selling my data off to everybody who asks.

There will be a cohort of people out there who have always been of the opinion “I would prefer an iPhone, but I want to sideload”

Now that android is becoming closed, the main reason they chose it is going away, and therefore they move to Apple.

Not a perspective I personally agree with, but I imagine it’s quite prevalent.

I think the general sentiment behind it is that people hate Google, and mainly used android phones because they are…were more open. Now that that’s going away, people would rather use iOS since apple has a better reputation for privacy, though that would be an incredibly low bar to limbo under compared to Google.

I really just hope degoogled android instances or Linux phones take off in the near future. I’d love to use grapheneOS, but it doesn’t support samsung phones, and im not at a point where im going to throw away a phone in good working order in order to get an OS.

As soon as most Android boot loaders were locked, I jumped ship. If I’m in a walled garden, I’d rather the garden be as nice as possible. Also, I don’t really want a customizable computer in my pocket, I want a communications appliance. I have a computer at home to tinker with.

Don’t care about file management, files app works just fine for sneakernet trading with coworkers.

Don’t care about deep customization, I think this makes most phones look worse, not better. It also makes troubleshooting harder when my parents or kid have changed everything.

With regards to price, I find Apple phones are cheaper in the long run; I can buy a refurb phone for my mom and it’ll get updates for 5+ years. My experience with Android was 1 year of updates. That alone was enough to push me away.

Ultimately I just don’t care about phones anymore. They all are boring and I want the easiest family fleet of devices to manage. For me, Apple is easier. I can fuck with phones less and do literally anything else more.

We really need Linux phones to pop as a solid third option! The new Jolla Phone seems like a neat device for a reasonable, but aside from that, there aren’t many other good options (that is, aside from older devices with degraded batteries and all).

iOS has better security than anything besides Pixels. Apple isn’t exactly stellar when it comes to privacy, but certainly better than stock Android/Google in general. They’re often the “good enough because there aren’t many better choices or it’s annoying to set up those other choices” choice (Apple TV, Apple TV+, macOS, iOS, Apple Watch, pretty much everything to varying degrees). iPhone is prioritized for third party apps a lot of the time. Hardware is great, not that Android isn’t, but Apple is a bit more consistent. Their cheaper tiers are still good in the important ways, whereas Samsung’s A series for example isn’t. Even gaming is getting better on iOS. Not so much for emulators but official purchased titles or streaming. Android is still better but I might be able to get by on iOS. Google is getting a lot better with consistent design choices with Material Design, and many third party devs have been following suit. But it’s no secret that Apple has routinely kicked everyone’s ass in terms of Ui usability AND aesthetics for decades. Continuity of devices and the general ecosystem helps a lot. This is replicable in some ways with Windows Phone Link or KDE Connect, but Apple “just works” as they say.

I use GrapheneOS & Linux which is by far the best option for privacy & security, and I prefer not to have any accounts that identify my devices, let alone using continuity features. But I’m not ignorant to other options or that people prioritize different features.

Yeah, I completely agree, for your examples I would say the phrase “cutting off your nose to spite your face” expresses the general principle :p

I never went to Android for it’s file system. Side loading was a neat feature but I didn’t/don’t get much use out of it. For me it’s the fact that I can navigate the system much faster than iPhone, the 3 buttons are always in the same place, and there are a lot more customization options.

I find iphones to be slower, very restrictive in nearly every way, and unnecessarily expensive. My employer likes it because it’s easier to lockdown, my wife likes it because it is locked down and her friends have iphones. The only things I see that iPhone has over android is how widely accepted it is in the US and it’s security.

I would jump ship if there was a decent third option. I hate that Samsung dominates the android market in the US. I hate their UI, the style of their phones, and all the bloatware they install that can’t be uninstalled. I loved my Sony phones but I had to switch to Samsung because US carriers don’t support Sony and Sony doesn’t support a lot of US bands.