• Lenin's Dumbbell @lemmygrad.ml
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    The funniest part is, repetition was the exact method used by the US and aligned countries to convince everyone that there was a massacre lmfao

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      Goebbels’ ghost should be embarrassed he couldn’t pull it off nearly as well.

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        He was seriously just an amateur compared to US propaganda apparatus, there’s even clear proof how he believed US really do protect it’s citizens, when U-boot sunk SS Athenia 3 september 1939 on which 28 US citizens died, Hitler, Goebbels, Donitz, Raeder immediately panicked that US will use that as casus belli like with Lusitania and they censored and propagandised entire case so much that the fact it was U-boot that sunk the ship was only accidentally revealed at Nuremburg trials.

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          This is interesting. I wanted to learn more about the propagandizing of it. Do you know of reliable English sites to do that?

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            Iirc i first read about it in book about WW2 on sea by Janusz Piekałkiewicz and also seen it in some British TV, and it’s on wiki too, so even western libs admit that happened, though they will never go to the conclusion how that compare US and 3rd Reich propaganda apparatus.

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              Thanks, I saw the Wikipedia entry but didn’t read the whole thing because Wikipedia. I’ll do that, later.

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        There were no deaths on the square, only around Beijing. The western atrocity porn of the PLA running over unarmed students on the square is entirely fake.

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        There were both protestor deaths as well as PLA personnel deaths (which outnumbered protestor death, actually). But even the US diplomat who was present through the whole event said that there were riots and riot control, but not a massacre.

        It’s only almost 40 years later that the continuous lying about history has twisted people’s perception of what actually happened.

        Even American newspapers didn’t call it a massacre until much later lmao. Probably because the evidence of many of the protestors meeting with American officials before the riots was readily available.

        Thankfully, such protests/colour revolutions are impossible now in China, so no regime change can be carried out by the US

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          Pla deaths outnumbered protestor deaths? Jeez, what’re you smoking? Even the Chinese govt didn’t claim that. And why are you thankful that ‘protests are impossible now’? Do you truly relish the political disenfranchisement of the populace so much? Smh my head

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            Yawn, try harder.

            No, I relish watching imperialist ambitions crumble lol. I hope it happens in every country where the Western powers attempt a colour revolution. And I hope that people that collaborate with imperialist powers get executed for treason.

            Idk whether you’re ignorant or malicious, but materialism will always win :)

            Imperialism is bound to implode. You can hate the CPC and wish for the people’s revolution to fail, but in the end, it’ll always win, because they’ve understood materialism. Conversely, it’s inevitable that Western countries will implode and collapse because they can’t survive without the exploitation of us third worlders.

            Count your days buddy boy. When our time comes, we will make no apologies for the terror

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            Do you truly relish the political disenfranchisement of the populace so much?

            If you truly believe we are disenfranchised because the American backed regime change failed I truly feel sorry for you. China has one of the most involved political systems I have heard of. We have constant interaction with our elected representatives at the town/city and county level through the local party offices where feedback criticism and petitions for changes are constant. We are listened to and our ideas are constantly worked on and applied in different ways as satisfying the people and earning achievements is how you get your peers to elect you to the provincial and national level. There is a reason that even from Harvard’s studies they found we have a high satisfaction with our government (95+%).

            protests are impossible now

            This is also a falsehood we have protests but they are about real single issues as opposed to regime change events backed by outside agitators.

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                Eh, our Chinese comrades are much nicer people than the world gives them credit for.

                I personally have no sympathy for your ilk and am cheering on for Western collapse. I’m almost, ALMOST looking forward to Westerners suffering after what they’ve done to the rest of us lol

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            The working classes are in power in the PRC, not the opposite. They also have sovereignty over their internet and media, rather than letting western countries foment regime change.

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              It’s cool how you deny the agency and personhood of the protestors by outright stating that they were all plants by ‘western countries’. Very enlightened!

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                Not all of the rioters were, but the leaders of the student protestors were. The protests had a wide range, from people protesting Reform and Opening Up, to the students who were protesting it for not going far enough and liberalizing the economy. Either way, the rioters failed, and modern Chinese citizens are happy that they did.