• Crozekiel@lemmy.zip
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    4 hours ago

    Maybe that asshole shouldn’t have been supporting the fascists then…?

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      6 hours ago

      I hate short replies that don’t add much (so added more than agreed!) but I’ve always enjoyed being anonymous in forums, I’m quite a shy person.

      Never was a jerk intentionally or anything just said my bit. But everyone possibly knowing who I was I’d probably say nothing ever. Fuck it I was private before I can be private later. But I’m old and recall before Internet when I had no (or little) interaction.

      Like we all haven’t seen data breeches over the years…oh it’s the government that holds the master authentication? Fuck that shit is all. Nothing, from a person who does programming these days, like that is remotely better.

      Some countries may be better but we’re all democratic right? Takes a single election till shit stops working as a safeguard, then new ones in make a different law. The whole system was not built for current tech.

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    Meta is pushing this so Zuck doesnt get sued for addicting kids. He can point his finger and say its the parents fault for kids seeing bad or addicting content. We are losing our rights and our privacy because a shithead like zuck doesnt want to get rightfully sued.

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    7 hours ago

    I am old enough to remember when the internet was run by hobbyists and enthusiasts, companies were happy to pay “to be online” it wasn’t riddled with ads and profits wasn’t the default reason to create content.

    Thems were heady days

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      You’re kidding yourself if you think companies being online was ever about anything other than potential profit. At first it was just a way to reach a wider pool of customers. Like the yellow pages before. Then, once every company had an online presence, they started looking for new ways to monetize the connectivity.

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    10 hours ago

    What is being pushed for implementation is better described as identity verification, not age verification.

    I would have little issue with a solution that purely gated services on age in a secure and privacy respecting manner. This OS level garbage is not that, its creating an oligarchy run identity gate to control access to personal computing.

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      7 hours ago

      Thank you. Now I just wish somebody at the government level would understand this and the implications of what this entails. Like maybe mention that all their weird online fetishes could be tracked back to them. It’s like this one company doing the “verification “ would be rolling in kompromat.

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        7 hours ago

        it’s all by design. they don’t want the general public to put it together that these are identify tracking surveillance system, just a carefree age verification to keep kids away from the baddies 🙄

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        9 hours ago

        Agreed. The model is a good start, the security of it’s implementation woefully inadequate… And I agree this MUST use post quantum cryptography.

        Dox-gating (yes I just made that up lol) operating systems will result in people not updating security patches.

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    9 hours ago

    For once Yen and I see eye to eye.

    given it’s just because it will hurt his business, but i’m still happy for some W

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      15 hours ago

      I’m glad someone else sees it. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills every day lately. People don’t give a single shit, will minimize the danger and do anything they can to give up their rights, time and time again.

      A few of us see it, sadly too few to matter.

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        11 hours ago

        People in the privacy communities have known this for a while.

        But because it’s slightly technical at minimum, and nuanced, and about something not immediately tied directly to people’s financial interest, the average person will never ever know, understand, or care about this.

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          15 hours ago

          already been accused/harassed on here of being pro-pedo for not being pro age-verification.

          it’s always the yahoo idiot opinions that gain political traction, and rarely the common sense ones.

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            already been accused/harassed on here of being pro-pedo for not being pro age-verification.

            it sounds like you should switch instances to one where this opinion (fact) is shared by most.

            • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
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              11 hours ago

              that’s not how it works. most of my harassment comes from .ml and far left instances. .ml users are especially aggressive and ignorant and eager to call you names. basically pro-authoritarian leftists.

              i’m on .world. it’s the most moderate instance in my experience. db0 and blahj are also instances from which i get a lot of harassment.

              sadly lemmy doesn’t let you block instances, only users or communities. so my user block list is like 500+ now.

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                10 hours ago

                why lie about a group that is strongly anti-age-verification attacking you for being anti-age-verification and off endorsements from another group that is strongly pro-age-verification supporting you for your anti-age-verification opinions?

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                  10 hours ago

                  lemmy.ml isn’t a unified group. it’s individual people who think all sorts of crazy shit, that is often downright contradictory.

                  the only stance your instance takes is being pro marixist leninist. that has nothing to do with age-verification. if anything it’s pro-authoritarian bent would most likely have it align with mechanisms mass state control of individuals .

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    I’ll stop interacting online outside of a professional context. So this obviously sucks from an online perspective. It’s will dampen online organization. But hopefully it increases community level interactions IRL. It’ll probably be good for day-to-day mental health.

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      The US has always been an electoral oligarchy. It paints itself as a democratic republic to claim that it has consent of the people it governs, but the governed are given no real choices. Would you like to take a right hook or a left hook? Sorry, not getting hit wasn’t an option.

      We need to start demanding our cities and states use a ranked sortition approach. Put a lottery option on a ranked voting ballot and make politicians beat the lottery if they want to claim they’re a legitimate ruling class.

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      11 hours ago

      But it’s in a new wrapper. Now it says “Good for humanity” on the label, still the same shit tho…

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    15 hours ago

    So if you don’t accept this “age verification patch” to your OS (and you know they won’t stop with that), I assume that any attempt to connect to a website that does this check will fail and you won’t be able to connect to it, right?

    Well, I am just FINE with that. If I can’t connect to a website, I will treat it like any other broken website and move on to another one. This is how the Internet routes around damage.

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      11 hours ago

      Totally valid idea, you just need to hope that there are enough people with you to give that decision weight or you’ll eventually run out of alternatives.

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    …and extend the ability of governments and especially corporations to control what you see and hear. From ads to what “facts” they want you to see.