• Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.worldOP
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    Yeah you’re proving the point I made by expressing your standard for “conservative”. Lemmy has the slightly left of center, left, leftist, extremist left and anarchists/communists. Which is fine, its my preference too. But it’s not a representation of the actual political spectrum. If you think it is you’re in an echo chamber.

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      ‘Conservative’ is conserving the old world. Conservatives in the 1800s wanted a return to feudalism as a reactionary backlash to liberalism.

      Liberalism and liberal ideology has been the only ‘valid’ ideology for states for 2 centuries.

      It is conservative to defend liberalism. It’s conservative to defend neoliberalism.

      In order to be ‘progressive’ you have to at least be a ‘radical’ socialist that wants the abolition of capitalism.

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          I’m correcting your point. Yes, a lot of the US is conservative. Most of the world isn’t. Only a US-Centric viewpoint would define liberalism as anything other than a conservative old-fashioned ideology only held by people that worship nazis.

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            You’re a shining star absolutely perfecting the point I made. Thank you for enforcing the facts I stated. The “most of the world” you’re talking about extends mostly to a dozen European countries with few exceptions. Not to an actual majority in regards to population. You’re absolutely killing the game when it comes to my post.

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              Actually I was exclusively talking about China and SEA, not Europe. While there are a couple of European countries that are aiming towards socialism most of Europe is pretty far right.