

…The results have been terrible for the entire world besides the US.


…The results have been terrible for the entire world besides the US.


Actually I was exclusively talking about China and SEA, not Europe. While there are a couple of European countries that are aiming towards socialism most of Europe is pretty far right.


I’m correcting your point. Yes, a lot of the US is conservative. Most of the world isn’t. Only a US-Centric viewpoint would define liberalism as anything other than a conservative old-fashioned ideology only held by people that worship nazis.


How is the US propaganda source that statistically only handles a partial clean up of US military and intelligence community actions ‘far right bullshit?’
If I come into your home, kill your pets, piss in your fridge, and mutilate your children, but then I pay someone to come in and give you some new food so I can print in the news paper that I am kindly and benevolently feeding a victim of a tragedy… am I the good guy?
No. I am attempting to generate positive propaganda to help people ignore the fact I caused the entire fucking situation to begin with.
There are no USAID projects that cannot directly be linked to a US military or intelligence operation. None. Not a single one.


‘Conservative’ is conserving the old world. Conservatives in the 1800s wanted a return to feudalism as a reactionary backlash to liberalism.
Liberalism and liberal ideology has been the only ‘valid’ ideology for states for 2 centuries.
It is conservative to defend liberalism. It’s conservative to defend neoliberalism.
In order to be ‘progressive’ you have to at least be a ‘radical’ socialist that wants the abolition of capitalism.


Americans have no such self-awareness. The ones that do do everything in their power to leave the country or isolate themselves in communes and imply don’t participate.


This just in, when you divide the world between 'The US and its allies" and “The entire rest of the fucking world,” the second party might make decisions that are not based in morality but survival.
The US has decided those are the two powers that exist on the planet. This is the problem with a unipolar hegemony, especially one that is fascist from every viewpoint except internally.
Russia is an awful right-wing imperialist capitalist country. No country should deal with it. Except, you know, all of the ones that could be victims of the US and thus don’t have the luxury to pick their friends.


Conservatives do exist here, there are plenty of people that actually believe Harris would have been a good president or that the US is capable of good actions.
I’ve even see people unironically support USAID and the NED. That kind of far-right bullshit is why some of us left reddit.


Then leave, nazi.


They absolutely are. When a building collapses due to the safety inspectors being bribed, it’s not the rich people that die – they live in the nice buildings. When an investigation into fair wages gets bribed away who suffers? The workers.
When a politician spends his career working against the workers who suffers? The Workers.
China at a local level is incredibly directly democratic, with workers voting on most things. Directly going against the will of the people is harming those people’s essential right to self determination, compromising their safety, and denying them all other rights afforded by China’s constitution.
While this isn’t actually how money works in any country, the workers pay the wages of the politicians, they demand honest service, and the whole system is based on the idea that can be done.


Some political ideologies and opinions are objectively not okay to exist in modern society, and those who hold those opinions should be eliminated. This isn’t a controversial opinion outside a tiny bubble in the US who think deep down every nazi is just a misunderstood cash cow waiting to be secreted away by the CIA.


Amnesty.org is a US Government organization created by Cold War era Intelligence agents. It is not an internationally recognized neutral organization and has no history of neutrality. They magically find issues with anyone that the US deems as an enemy, but has never criticized the US.
HRRC I’ve never heard of, but for a generic NGO that appeared out of no where that posts opinion articles that contradict their own sources, they aren’t off to a good start. Also not an official organization of anywhere.
USHMM Hosts no sources, has no researchers on staff, has no direct connections to china, and appears to be israeli owned and operated so nothing they’ve ever said or posted is likely to be true.
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And getting immediately hyperbolic feedback about your sorting job. It’s like if your computer was schizophrenic and overly upset your didn’t place the story exactly where it should go according to the whims of whichever voices are awake at the time.


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A) BlueMAGA exclusively refers to the 'Vote Blue no Matter Who" Crowd. It was a leftist term before you liberals even knew what MAGA was.
B) There is no forced sterilization found. Some was alleged at one point, but there has never been evidence, including production of the individuals who claimed this happened, ever. The only source for this was anonymous reports from Radio Free Asia, the CIA propaganda outlet that also purports to believe China is stealing white children from tourists.
C) Family Separation, aka taking kids into state care when their parents are arrested. This has been the only confirmed cases where this has happened, according to the report that I linked.
D) Sexual Violence possibly happened… as it does in all criminal justice systems. We don’t know, there is no evidence of this, including production of anyone that has ever claimed this happened to them; but yes this is the most probable ‘abuse’ that exists. If you give prison guards power and privacy, they rape. This is true in every single country on Earth and is a reason that eventually justice systems need to be abolished.
E) Forced Labor, aka, what every single country on earth does with prisoners during rehabilitation. Every single one. There isn’t a prison system where this doesn’t happen. It’s part of every psychologist’s recommendation for correcting criminal behavior.
F) “Illegal deportation” isn’t a thing that can happen.
G) ‘Cultural Genocide’ is a thing thanks to the US definition of genocide, but even that’s not actually being alleged since, you know, you can visit Xinjiang and actually speak Uyghur to nearly anyone there. It’s taught in every school in the region to all persons in the region, along with mandatory cultural festivals for students. Same as Cantonese being taught in that region, Tibetan taught in that region, and Mongolian taught in that region. Because of these facts no one even tries to claim cultural genocide anymore, and it doesn’t fit any other possible definition of genocide.
Was the response to a half decade of terror attacks a bit extreme? Maybe, that’s subjective. And not something anyone in the US or Europe can criticize, given you people responded to terror attacks by killing 2+ million Arabs.


If Europe were nuked in 1945 instead of Japan we’d have been in world peace for 80 years.


I did, extensively when it came out. That’s not genocide.
If you actually cared to read the report what they allege they found is ‘systemic arrests of families of captured Uyghur terrorists,’ that ‘have nothing to do with their family member’s terrorism,’ and were held ‘without bond until trial.’ No genocide. No systemic abuse of all uyghurs. Less than 1% of an extremely small population involved.
Given CHINA WAS VIOLENTLY ATTACKED FOR HALF A DECADE BY TURKISH UYGHURS PAID BY THE CIA, you might understand why families of those terrorists were, you know, investigated arrested and rehabilitated in the off chance they too were a part of a terror organization.
That plus the multi-hundred billion dollar investment in Xinjiang resulting in one of the largest, fastest decreases in poverty rates in world history is why China hasn’t had another terror attack despite being bordered with Turkey, where the terror organization still exists.


Sure. Here’s the UN.
In fact, here’s all claims made to the UN, the assessments and recommendations of investigative bodies, and all specific recommendations to China regarding alleged human rights abuses. By a Uyghur rights group. None of which calls anything China has done as genocide. Because it is a CIA-funded Uyghur rights group, it does call counter terrorism of the internationally recognized terrorist organization known as the East Turkestan Party ‘cultural oppression.’ But even that slant is hollow when they actually link to the OHCHR reports which show, at worst, some family members directly internationally recognized as linked to known terrorists and that are actually on the no-fly list in the US were arrested and put into rehabilitation after the terror attacks.
Edit: And to be clear, I just did the impossible by proving a negative. In all logic and debate it is on the claimant to prove their case. next time have proof.
The diseases the US has been experimenting with since the 1950s, many times on its own population e.g. the Tuguskee experiments?