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Fake money for criminals helped me buy weed when I didn’t have a local dealer. It’s also how I pay for Mullvad. So fake money for criminals wins.
I miss when that was what the fake money was for instead of the bullshit broligarch grift.
Bubbles always burst eventually, just wait for it.
Although, without the grift, it would be super illegal, so should we really complain?
Fake criminal money more legit than government money. One day I woke up to the news that all my deposits are frozen indefinitely, that I am not allowed to carry cash abroad, and that I am not allowed to get bank accounts or transfers from any foreign institutions. .Thank fuck for crypto and that I had some. It literally saved my life, so yeah, fake criminal money by a long shot for me.
Selfhost instance on .ru
Checks out. Hows the outlaw life?
Praying for Georgia and Georgian people everyday for letting me stay effectively indefinitely. Otherwise, living like stateless person would’ve been terrible. Though, technically, despite everything I’ve posted on the internet, police is not very interested in me, my track record is clean and I can go back anytime, it’s just that I’d really, really rather not…
I demand privacy, so I’m a criminal anyways
Crypto is not privacy.
depends. not universally, that’s right. don’t buy dogecoin for privacy.
Also depends on your definition of privacy. Some people confuse privacy (not seeing what you do) with anonimity (not knowing who you are).
Public blockchains (like BTC) have zero privacy, as everyone sees the transactions and balances, meanwhile private ones (like XMR) supposedly avoid anyone but two people in a transaction to know that transaction happened, or even to know each other’s balance.
In both cases, I would say you are as anonymous as your way to turn the coin from/into fiat is (P2P, KYC or non-KYC platforms, etc.).
Like with AI, I like crypto as a concept, but the practice… (specially the resources both consume for what little benefit they end up having)
You can swap Monero with a more common coin on a decentralized exchange with no KYC, and then cash that out at your Coinbase or whatever.
Also, Monero is very efficient for a proof of work coin, partially because it’s designed to be mined on regular, consumer grade PCs.
According to Google, it uses somewhere between 645 and 650 GWh annually, compared to between 150 and 204.4 Terawatt-hours (TWh) for Bitcoin.
Bitcoin was the first, and as is usually the case, that makes it one of the worst.
According to Google, it uses somewhere between 645 and 650 GWh annually, compared to between 150 and 204.4 Terawatt-hours (TWh) for Bitcoin.
sure but it’s also a much smaller operation
Fair enough. I do believe it’s more efficient on a per coin basis or whatever though
I also do PCP and other Durango Morrison drugs as heist forbid
Depends how you use it. And which coin - before Q day comes Monero is pretty private, but Bitcoin is transparent.
Fake money for criminals is unironically a decent addition to the world, although it’s coded in a really dumb way. Plagiarism machine is overhyped right now, but it also has some legit uses.
So, the poll actually seems about right.
Even the chatbots now can write code that compiles and does what you tell it to. I’m a system analyst and can code but I am slow. Now I can give a design to any of them and get code that works in a couple of hours, with most of the time spent iterating toward the right result
In the past it often took a week of afternoons and late nights to turn an idea into working code. I can see why programmers fear for their jobs
Every time someone posts this meme, I feel compelled to add “forums for communists”.
Big Tech made Lemmy so that communists wouldn’t organize in real life
Nah, infighting always works best.
I think your priorities are in the wrong place if you think about “forums for communists” instead of “telegram channels with incel nazis”.
I interpreted it as them mentioning lemmy (since lots of lemmy users are communists or socialists of some flavor), but if they meant to complain I agree with you completely
The former. Being subversive doesn’t imply it’s bad.
Now I feel compelled to ask: Do you this meme is seriously asking for opinions on subversive innovations? Because I interpreted it as asking what is the most dystopian.
I took it as the poll itself, and the results, being entirely irrelevant. They just decided to use that as the format/delivery mechanism for their joke.
It was, but tech lawlessness swings both ways, or has so far, and it’s worth mentioning.
And I hope you would agree nazis killing people are more dystopian than fucking larpers.
It appears to me that the meme is complaining about tech breaking laws, not soliciting opinions. In case this needs to be said, I’m using Lemmy because of its ability to resist (legal!) censorship, especially of long-overdue leftist speech.
You forgot femboys and linux users
But then the poll would make little sense, because forums for communists would win with 99.97% of votes…
I wish the average person was as open minded as you’re giving them credit.
fake money for criminals
I presume you must mean USD?
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Automatic sidewalk blocker
e-scooters?
Nah those food delivery bastards. They don’t even go home after they just sit together taking up half the side walk
Here is hire scooters left laying across paths
I eat those
The exposure of hotels using surveillance pricing. A room should cost a hunnert bucks a night. Not $100 or $150 or $200 or $250 etc., depending on which “app” you pray to. Am I right Trivago?
But srsly to me it does feel like the future, because when I was a kid “by the year 2000” was synonymous with a glorious future of space hotels, undersea cities, moon bases… I can’t believe we’re a quarter of the way through the 21st Century and none of that has happened. On the plus side we did get really spiffy new ways to buy stuff we don’t need with money we don’t have, and fingertip access to pretty much all of human knowledge, which most of us ignore in our endless quest for entertainment. But oh well.
Yeah, because you were thinking of all the ways technology could have been awesome, while what they were working on was making it funnel all the world’s wealth to a handful of people.
Fucked up thing is some of that has happened, but you need to have been born into generational wealth to be a part of those things. Ritchie Ricn is just moralisticly better version of Musk. Or at least a version less hooked on coach K
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The very fact that it’s “fake money for criminals” is exactly why I didn’t pick up any BitCoin when it was 12p per coin… I could have been rich af off of £10
I too, ran across Bitcoin in the VERY early days, when it was pennies. I thought it was a scam and probably illegal, I mean “people can’t just set up their own currency, can they?” It didn’t help that I first found it when I was poking around in Tor, wondering what the “dark web” was all about.
Haha, what an idiot!
Yeah, I didn’t get any either. :-/
“criminals” = people the goverment doesnt like crypto is untraceable (mostly)
I think thats why there are so many smear campaigns against it
crypto is untraceable (mostly)
It is very traceable. It’s just that the government doesn’t have a special position with tracing transactions, so there’s been a bunch of kludges built on top of the very transparent Bitcoin network to try to mask things.
For laypersons: they put all the coins in a box and shake the box.
For your lay: the government puts a significant fraction of the coins into these boxes and can use the statistical information gained from this to deobfuscate transactions. If you put enough money in, either at once or slowly over time, they can figure out who you are.
thats the point, its decentralized
anything is traceable IF you have a special position in the transactions
monero, as an example, lets you run your own node
Monero is untraceable (if you don’t use a KYC exchange to get it), but Monero isn’t “most” crypto.
You said crypto, in general, is mostly untraceable and that’s very very wrong.
Monero is the exception, not the rule.
crypto is untraceable (mostly)
Super super incorrect.
There are plenty of issues beyond that, especially BTC and similar coins being energy inefficient, just imagine if every single transaction ran through that. It wasn’t designed to be practical.
And on the less technical side, the biggest contributor to crypto being despised by most people is the massive prevalence of scammers, from companies that pretend to help you invest (while being a ponzi scheme) to rug pulls to other scammers being attracted to it for its perceived anonymity.
Afaik there’s legitimate uses for the underlying technology, but cryptocurrency is just inferior to regular digital currency from a practical standpoint, and you either have to put up with government regulation (defeating the purpose of a currency aside from government) or put up with fraud that can’t be stopped by our governments.
the biggest contributor to crypto being despised by most people is the massive prevalence of scammers
At risk of being called a crypto bro or something (I’m really not, I learned all this shit years before everything turned into what it is), I’d like to play Devil’s advocate here for the moment and ask how that’s different from fiat currency?
USD is practically untraceable, and people are being scammed out of it constantly with no recourse.
so you have to put up with surveillance or put up with freedom?
I dont think the state should be able to trace transactions
That’s very understandable, but impractical for investments and savings, the US insures some banks and the like but it doesn’t insure crypto funds, if people’s savings end up there based on false promises (or if their assets are managed by a third party) they can lose everything and have no recourse.
This isn’t a hypothetical, it’s the story of countless people who lost everything to grifters. I don’t think blaming individuals makes a lot of sense when it comes to emerging technology and when, again, regular finance is generally insured by the state. The biggest reason for scammers to flock to crypto is that there’s a lot less regulation, making it harder to prosecute them. And that’s my original point on the choice we have right now, even if ideally we want better choices in the future. Right now you either go with a traditional institution for financial services, which includes government oversight, or you operate on your own and assume a lot of risks, whether you’re even aware of that or not (and financial actors purposely deceive people on this end, as it’s in their best interest to do so).
Bitcoin energy use doesn’t scale with the number of transactions but based upon the competition for mining.
so basically, research the crypto you buy and practice basic cybersecurity?
sure, it wasnt designed for everybody, but that isnt a reason to smear it
Probably modern electric drums.
Play them like the wind winds them
Why is everyone so toxic? If you wanna discuss something be nice. (Even if you think that the person you are discussing with is a complete idiot)
Hey we obey the law here sir
What is this comment even in reference to?
The fake money for criminals is the best because there’s a lot of people that aren’t criminals that have bought in on it and among those the concensus is “I think a bunch of IT neck beards can build a better financial system better than the one that evolved over centuries”.
The delusion is laughable.
Honestly I think pretty much anyone could build a better financial system, and more people should try. What we have now is the result of centuries of unchecked power. This monetary policy was created by Richard Nixon and then we adopted a Keynesian rationale post facto. It didn’t evolve, it was stolen.
If you’ve got another idea (including moneyless systems) I’m down to try that too, but what we’ve got right now is pure garbage, and having no out before the modern era doesn’t imply that it’s good.
The modern banking system and monetary policy was created under FDR. Nixon just stoped pretending it was backed on gold and told de Gaulle to kick rocks when he asked for the gold back.
Realistically the changes under Nixon are peanuts compared to the digitization of it all since the introduction of systems like Swift.
You say that like Nixon wasn’t unilaterally breaking the Bretton Woods Agreement. No offense, but are you an American?
Yes I am an American and I know what he did, but I also know that the Breton woods agreement was only a small part of the financial system, and that realistically, the economic downturn of the 70s was far more heavily impacted by several oil shocks and the hangover from massive spending on Vietnam.
Is a currency really that much better if it’s less stable than balancing two pyramids on their respective tips?
Bitcoin is the youngest currency around and u like all of the other currencies it isn’t mandated or controlled by governments. If inventions have to be 100% perfect out of the gate then you’ll never get anything new.
I think it had it’s time to cooldown from the extrme speculative volatility. It has lost it’s coolness factor in the mainstream after NFT and AI took over.
Still as volative as ever.
You can’t tell me a 11% drop in value can be considered a valid alternative.
You can’t be serious. Bitcoin is less than 20 years old and for most of that time almost everyone thought it was a joke. Most still do. Your timeframe for stabilization is disconnected from reality.
Bitcoin is the youngest currency around
No it’s not, it’s the oldest (and as such, the worst in almost every way) crypto.
Edit: in case you are like one of the commenters here and struggle with reading comprehension, I did not just say that bitcoin is older than USD. Try reading it slower maybe? If the parentheses is throwing you off, try taking it out completely and reading the sentence without it.
I believe in you.
Right, Bitcoin is older than gold, or the US dollar, or the British pound, France’s franc….
Uh maybe try reading my comment again?
Why? It doesn’t say anything different this time around.
Ok then I don’t know what to tell you.
Is your brain just skipping the last word because it comes after a parenthesis?
Hint: I said it’s the oldest and worst crypto.
Unless I’ve missed some huge news, none of the things you snarkily listed are cryptos.
You have to understand that I’m trying very hard to not be an asshole right now lol. Just read the entire goddamn comment
I think it’s very true, but cryptocurrency is not the way to go
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I put my dick in the future and it came out more rotund but less grandiose, so i have the conclude the future is Maricopa county, as they grow wide, not tale. Gross amd quidditch corsackage.
you dont have to put the meat on the sheet but at least put the sheet on the shelf below it
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