What the hell are you people doing buying this crap in the first place?

very cool, thank you.

Resenting other workers because they happen to be better compensated than you is the opposite of class consciousness.

This is basically the central concern of David Graeber’s Bullshit Jobs theory, though he focused more on the other side of the issue, how the most meaningless jobs tend to be the most compensated.

Yes and a driver’s test, like any other licensed vehicle. What I would oppose are speed capping the vehicles themselves or outright banning them, as I think both of those “solutions” are more in service to the automotive industry than anything else. And throws the baby out with the bath water, so to speak.

Here in the states we don’t have a “light traffic road” as you describe. That’s just not a thing in our infrastructure. This situation would be easier to resolve if we did.

I think everyone in here is whining about slightly different things because of how many aspects there are to this discourse.

Where do you live? I’m in the US where almost all vehicles, including cyclists, ride in the street and only car drivers refer to them as “car lanes”.

Why are you biking on a pedestrian walkway? That seems like it’s own seperate problem.

Places that allow any sort of bike on the sidewalk are generally places that have neglected to bother with any sort of adequate biking infrastructure.

I like FSS, in fact I attended a few rallies of the original New York chapter, but I actually think that bill is too soft. I’d rather we get serious about straight-up revoking the privledges of people who demonstrate they can’t be trusted to safely wield them. This opinion isn’t limited to vehicles.

How about we just license the ebikes according to what they’re capable of like we do with cars and motorcycles?

FYI 45 kph on a non-motorized bicycle is not really “freakishly fast”, that’s a normal downhill speed on your average middle age guy’s weekend workout. And I think this concern is already addressed by signed speed limits.

The spirit of my complaint is that we should just appropriately license them. If practically that means a new class of license then yes, that’s how you license them.

Just license them in accordance with their capabilities. All the bad press about ebikes lately is running cover for government negligence over lack of normalizing them into existing licensing frameworks, on behalf of the automotive lobby that knows if these vehicles aren’t given an appropriate legal niche they will instead end up being seen by society as dangerous scofflaws and ultimately banned or legistalted out of practicality.

Use your brains. Ask why the discussion doesn’t revolve around appropriate licensure and infrastructure, and instead revolves around how to get rid of them.

I’m a cyclist and I’m against this. If they’re effectively electric motorcycles then just license them as motorcycles, end of story. People are getting brain fog over the fact that they’re cheap and popular with kids. We don’t speed cap any other vehicles, we just license them appropriately. Let’s just continue doing that. It’s wacky to me that this isn’t obvious to most people.

Cars can go even faster and actually do kill thousands of people, but god fucking forbid we talk about slowing those down because we’re so normalized to their violence that we’re blind to it. I agree with the person you replied to, this is monumentally stupid. Give micromobility their own infrastructure, repurpose space currently given to cars. We’ve gotta stop pearl-clutching over sustainable progress.

This one looks more like an eclair to me

Absolutely, but so does everything else.

Drop all support for Iran war, pivot fundraising mechanisms away from Israeli influence, use bully pulpits and media to keep Epstein in the news cycle, direct more national funds to local DSA candidates, rotate gerontocracy out of party leadership, etc…

I don’t really mind them doing stuff like this too, though.