Far-right activists in Britain are increasingly adopting the rhetoric of Christian nationalism. Yet while they look to American churches for an example, their evangelical style seems unlikely to map onto Brits’ quite different attitudes toward religion.
As a white boy deep in the south region of the US where evangelical Christian is the only Christianity I suggest to you, as a person who has lived in this shithole, that my brothers and sisters in Great Britain nuke this shit from orbit and pour gasoline on the smoking embers. We thought this would not happen here but we let the fucking nuts congregate and feed off each other. It all started when Eisenhower let Billy Graham in the White House because, " what can a little prayer breakfast hurt?" And no one said a thing because why offend " good Christian" people. Stop it now while the chickens are still in the hen house.
As someone raised in evangelical Christianity and fought my way out, this guy’s not fucking kidding, and neither is he being overly dramatic. I suggest you act with frightening speed and ruthless efficiency, leaving no blade of grass untouched nor smallest nook or cranny overlooked. As you act, do not waver in your fortitude, and do not for even a moment to allow yourselves to consider that you may be acting “a bit rash.” It is imperative that you cease immediately the spread of this pestilence.
Fighting fascism doesn’t mean destroying your ability to self reflect or question yourself. That’s a ridiculous way to think about anything.
Edit: apparently I’m wrong. The guys who never allow themselves to question their actions or thoughts are typically known as the good guys.
Nobody here’s against self-reflection or questioning or critical thinking. These comments come from people who explicitly did do self-reflection and left. The ones who don’t are still in the evangelical system, I presume.
Believe it or not though, those things have an empirical or social component. Namely, if seemingly rational actors (by all means grill them) are giving such grave warnings, which is an astonishingly rare event… Heed them.
This is more prudence and modesty than mindless or naive deference, an ironically fine line given the subject matter. Lastly, this isn’t simply a black-and-white matter of “good and bad” however comfortable it is to give in to the impulse to reduce everything to such. Reminder: following said impulse doesn’t make you any more moral than the next person.
Can not upvote this enough. This man speaks the truth, and reason. He is not crazy. I’ve had a similar experience, and if anything, I think this isn’t raising the warning flag high enough for what could happen in the UK here.
Too bad there’s no “new world” to ship all the fundies off to this time.
Mars?
Yeah, the Tolerance paradox, tolerate these toxic shit stains and this is how you end up
As a white boy from Idaho, I second this. We ran their first wave out in the early 00s, but the next wave trying to create a white nationalist haven was far worse than the old ones who contented themselves with cosplay Conderacy/Nazism and only left their compounds once a year for a parade. There’s no shame anymore, no edgelord “I’m a Nazi” attitude. They’ve normalized the doctrine by being average neighbors rather than radical weirdos in a bunker. They’re invading our local offices, school boards, city councils, and other minor offices. One challenged our governor (a Regan-esque pos but not total MAGA) and while he lost, still got 30% of the vote. They’re buying up our remote farming communities and turning them into ideological enclaves. They’re well educated, and many are former cops or military. Out here it’s creating a strange bedfellow situation. We’ve got urban leftists and libs, east state Mormons who are starting to recognize MAGA evangelicals aren’t their ally, and the 2A an-cap libertarians who hate the Feds. Fun times. But seriously, don’t let these people get a foot in the door at any level.
You thought it wouldn’t happen there? Pretty sure most of the rest of us knew it always had.
Also, he changed the official national motto from “E Pluribus Unum” (out of many, one) to “In God We Trust”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust
i’m fascinated by the how and why of the fall of christianity in the UK after the 2nd world war. btw the war itself probably contributed but the collapse was steady over the 30 years after it
so the uk is already reacting to the new religious groups like islam and the evangelican african churches and these new idiots will be dealt with in a similar fashion
we are scientist atheists that must protect our democracy and that is not going to change