Yeah but in real life communist countries are as explotative and brutally oppressive as capitalist ones.
It’s almost like all countries are based on the rich exploiting the poor or something.
Capital has always been formed by exploitation - you cannot have a surplus without paying workers less than they create, it’s an accounting relationship.
That said, the amount of income disparity in “communist” countries has generally been much less than capitalist ones.
As far as oppression, it depends how you define that. But if you want to look at the amount of incarceration (a good measure), the US not only is greater than any socialist nation’s average, but even the worst of the Stalinist Great Purge. And this ignores just how cruel capitalism is in the global south to make those profits.
I mean yeah, you can believe against all evidence that China and the USSR weren’t poverty stricken exploitative totalitarian hellholes, it’s a free country.
Which is ironic becasue in those countries you would not be free to express that opinion.
I think the reason you try to bully me in every thread where we cross paths is because I handed your ass to you on a silver platter with all the trimmings, and your ego won’t let you live it down, because the thing people like you fear most of all is being proved wrong.
Yeah but in real life communist countries are as explotative and brutally oppressive as capitalist ones.
It’s almost like all countries are based on the rich exploiting the poor or something.
Capital has always been formed by exploitation - you cannot have a surplus without paying workers less than they create, it’s an accounting relationship.
That said, the amount of income disparity in “communist” countries has generally been much less than capitalist ones.
As far as oppression, it depends how you define that. But if you want to look at the amount of incarceration (a good measure), the US not only is greater than any socialist nation’s average, but even the worst of the Stalinist Great Purge. And this ignores just how cruel capitalism is in the global south to make those profits.
The only thing I disagree with is this.
Ok, where’s your data?
What, you want me to do the work for you? I don’t work for free.
According to who exactly?
The people who live(d) there.
Anyone living anywhere can believe any delusional nonsense they want, pics or gtfo loser
I mean yeah, you can believe against all evidence that China and the USSR weren’t poverty stricken exploitative totalitarian hellholes, it’s a free country.
Which is ironic becasue in those countries you would not be free to express that opinion.
What fucking evidence? Go get it clown
I think the reason you try to bully me in every thread where we cross paths is because I handed your ass to you on a silver platter with all the trimmings, and your ego won’t let you live it down, because the thing people like you fear most of all is being proved wrong.
Anything’s possible when you make shit up kiddo
You are a good example of that, yes.
there are no communist countries in the world. and there never has been. communism has never been achieved anywhere.
what you are referring to are authoritarian state capitalist societies. they may be communist/socialist in name, just not in praxis.
Thanks! Tell that to all the people defending China and the USSR please.