• Korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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      2 days ago

      Also what counts as a civilian killed by NATO as opposed to a civilian killed in a war NATO was involved in but who killed them is unclear or it wasn’t NATO?

      But we do know that the USA has opened fire on civilians before with them as the target and there were no hostile forces around.

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      3 days ago

      Yes, specifically NATO operations, not necessarily ones that NATO members took part in.

      A civilian means a non-combatant.

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      3 days ago

      This can just be a provocative question to present NATO negatively.

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        NATO is bad, though. It’s the “defensive” alliance for the world’s imperialist powers, similar to how “Israel” “defends itself” with the IDF. It’s used to prevent the people of the global south from directly retaliating against imperialism.

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        This can just be a provocative question to present NATO negatively.

        I agree. However, these days NATO does not need anyone but themselves to put it into negatively daylight.

        With US in NATO and allowing Israel to do what they do meanwhile other NATO countries are just watching from sidelines. I know this is a very simplified version but yeah.

        That said… I’m not fond of any countries government.