• bagsy@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    All the spy agencies around the world have to be salivating, seeing how thoughoughly isreal and russia have been able to controll the US. It didnt cost a single soldier or war, all they had to do was setup a blackmail ring and abuse 100s or 1000s of children.

    Scary and despicable.

    I am truly scared thinking about epstien v2, whoever that is.

  • Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca
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    13 hours ago

    Not sure how much money Putin has invested in Trump but it is paying off in spades. Imagine the cost of an actual war against the US vs how he’s destroying the country without any boots or armament ever hitting US ground?

  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    That’s about as nuclear of an option as they can threaten in terms of geoeconomics and how they’ll directly impact the US, tbh.

    For those in the back: they’re threatening to jump on the bandwagon that’s shifting away from the petrodollar, which would have absolutely catastrophic consequences for the US economy, as well as in general. Think “fall of the USSR” type shit. This is not an exaggeration.

    And yeah, it can absolutely be argued that the petrodollar was a stupid fucking idea for a lot of reasons. But it did let the US more or less not care about debt at all for over a half century. Pulling that rug is going to have a lot of consequences in a lot of places all over the world - not just the US - and will ultimately yield a lot of chaos.

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      I think some people might not grasp the scale of destruction and death that resulted from “The fall of the USSR”. Western neoliberalism doesn’t really teach this as the absolute crime against humanity that it was. They think they just got pizza huts.

      It was the single greatest decline in life expectency rates in recorded history that was not caused by a disease, famine, or war. Ukraine became the child sex trafficking “capital” of the world.

      The capitalist oligarchs will do it again to the western world as long as they are able to maintain their positions of power. The “fall of US democracy” or whatever history will call it, it’s not the fall of the oligarchs that run that nation. They will be fine. The people and the working class of the US will suffer the consequences.

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        15 hours ago

        While I agree that shifting the world away from being so US-centric is a good idea long-term, this is absolutely not the way to do it. This is going to cause an absolute shitload of harm everywhere - and not just to Western countries, lest you think I’m trying to be an apologist for them. The only parties that this will unequivocally benefit are Russia and NK. Even China is gonna feel some splash damage from the (now ongoing) collapse of US geopolitical and geoeconomic stability.