“We used our oil wealth to build an economic powerhouse. They used their wealth for nuclear programs that are nefarious, for missiles, drones, proxies, etc.,” she told host Jonathan Karl. “So whereas we tried to become and have become an international, global, responsible player, they are a pariah state. And they wanted to break that model, but they underestimated our resolve.”
The UAE has faced a barrage of attacks from Iran since the U.S. and Israel launched joint attacks on Iran in late February. While the Gulf state — like many of its neighbors — initially opposed the war, it has since shifted its tone as it considers how to avoid the breakout of a larger regional war.
Slave state hosting the US military breaks out its strongest weapon: whining.
So having weapons somewhere seemingly justifies targeting UAE civilian infrastructure to you. So is the US also allowed to hit Iranian civilian infrastructure, since there are Iranian weapons somewhere in Iran?
So having weapons somewhere seemingly justifies targeting UAE civilian infrastructure to you.
When the Iranians struck refineries and the Dubai airport, I doubt they did it because they thought there was a weapon hidden there. This is simply punishment on the UAE for aligning itself with America. When they hurt the economy of the UAE, this eventually leads to hurting the American economy.
I’m not saying that this is justified, but it is what they’re doing.
I would be more sympathetic if the UAE was not responsible for an actively unfolding genocide in Sudan.
Or the slavery or any of it really
My bigger concern is the unilateral decisions that Trump keeps making on behalf of the entire damned world that cause ripples of strife throughout the region.
I’m less concerned with the deservingness of the recipient then I am with the undeserviveness of the originator of all this bullshit.
Oh boohoo. That’s what all those US bases are for, to protect you right, how’s that working out for you?
Also Iran has provided evidence that this “civilian infrastructure” was housing US troops because they didnt want Iran to know where they were.
GCC countries are fine with the war until they no longer benefit from it. This is all them being pissy that they can’t make money hand over fist while oil prices are high.
Most ludicrous crap were their comments and cries of being “neutral” while hundreds of aircraft were actively taking off and landing from their US bases lol. Someone on lemmy was even claiming that Iran shouldn’t have attacked the GCC because they were “nominally neutral” lol.
Iran did what no country has effectively done before; they kicked the American empire in the nuts.
Every country and their mom that bought into the US hegemony is suddenly facing the sharp consequences of an adversary whose original “mistake” was overthrowing its own US backed regime.
Half the UN is calling Iran daily to put on a permanent ceasfire, but now they have zero reason to after crippling the petroleum supply line for only like four and a half weeks.
The temp ceasfire expires in 2 days, and I fully expect the strait to close again for a long time as the fighting resumes.
But can the Gulf countries actually say no to the US? They don’t have Iran’s drone fleet or tunnel network, and are much more dependent financially on the dollar. I get the feeling that they’re caught between a rock and a hard place here. And at least some of those ‘accidents’ and ‘friendly fire’ could be them doing what they can get away with.
If there’s one tiny minuscule upside to all of the death and destruction, it’s that the modern day free cities collectively known as the UAE are dying.
Good riddance. I hope it’s painful.
Hope the slaves are getting out. https://www.humanrightsresearch.org/post/modern-day-slavery-in-the-united-arab-emirates
Good to know someone else was concerned about that.
Targeting civilian infrastructure is always a war crime, no matter if you like the regime.
Targeting civilian infrastructure
There’s a nuance; The Iranians are targeting refineries, hotels and the DXB airport, not random houses. This is because the profits coming from these are mostly being recycled to prop up the American stock market.
The Iranian strategy is not to defeat the US military head on, but to sabotage the network that allows it to operate, which includes the American economy. Punishing the Gulf States for investing in the US is a necessary means to this end.
Claiming you’re a victim here while at the same time being one of the greatest financial partners of the aggressor is not going to impress anyone. While these strikes are technically illegal, this is beyond the point for the Iranian strategy.
I do not know exactly what kind of targets the Iranians had, but I find it very difficult to speak of “technically illegal” targets, especially in connection with a “strategy”.
So you are telling me it is okay to kill civilians for the greater cause?
Also a stupid question, why shouldn’t Iranians bomb Mexico, China or the EU? They are the largest trade partners of the US.
So you are telling me it is okay to kill civilians for the greater cause?
No, I’m telling you that they think it is worth it to win the war. Again, they’re targeting economical infrastructures, not residential ones.
Also a stupid question, why shouldn’t Iranians bomb Mexico, China or the EU? They are the largest trade partners of the US.
Because, particularly China, is one of their largest trading partners too. This would make the situation much worse for Iran, compared to limiting itself to the Gulf States.
Moving troops from military bases into hotels means that those hotels are no longer civilian infrastructure.
True subject to proportionality. But if the US or Israel bombs hotels and stuff, with the same argumentation, people here are also fine with that? There seem to be some hypocrisy on lemmy regarding that.
Also from Human Rights Watch: “Iran: Unlawful Strikes Across Gulf Endanger Civilians”:
The Iranian government has alleged that it is targeting sites where US personnel have relocated from nearby bases. However, Ebrahim Jabbari, a general with Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), suggested that Iran will target civilian objects, saying that Iran “will hit all economic centers in the region,” AFP reported.
It is a really bad look to for your general to explicitly say that you are targeting civilian targets.
Israel does use the same argumentation, the “human shields” narrative was used as justification to bomb Gaza.
The difference is that Israel bombed pretty much every building in Gaza, whereas the IRGC reportedly only struck select hotels where US or Israeli troops were being moved off base.
That is a significant difference, because one is a war crime, and the other is a legitimate target under the rules of war.
No you don’t understand. These civilians infrastructure were used as human shields /s
UAE has asked the US for emergency loans/swaps… if the war lasts longer. Prospects are somewhere between “Certain that they are begging to completely surrender for no concessions” and “ending the civilization any day now”. If the latter path is chosen, Iran can force GCC to beg US withdrawal by hitting all desalination plants that provide 90% of their water (other 10% is in bottles on ships through SoH)
The most likely outcome is that the US just leaves without paying Iran compensation for peace. They would be unlikely to help restore GCC bases or do much reconstruction there without having an illusion of safety. Rest of the world (China mostly) will manage reopening SoH, rebuilding the area, and guaranteeing peace. As part of UAE’s request, was the threat that it would be forced to sell oil in CNY.
