Spoiler, it wasn’t AI but a detective and a failed system abdicating using any thought.
Why did it take 5 months to even interview her? What the fuck it’s happening in US jails.
To steal a comment:
[W]e’re seeing the first instances of what reality looks like with AI in the hands of the average bear. Just like the excuse was “but the computer said it was correct,” now we’re just shifting to “but the AI said it was correct.”
Don’t underestimate how much authority and thinking people will delegate to machines. Not to mention the lengths they’ll go to weasel out of taking responsibility for a screw up like this (saw another comment in this thread about the Chief of Police stepping down but it being framed as “retirement”).
and a failed system abdicating using any thought
So the whole government at this point. Idiocracy was supposed to be funny fiction not depressing reality.
Why did it take 5 months to even interview her? What the fuck it’s happening in US jails.
Money and profits in that order.
For the umpteenth fucking time, what’s going on in the US today is not “Idiocracy!”
In Idiocracy, the people were stupid, but honest. This is not that. This is malicious, which is worse.
Give us a better correlation then.
I suddenly realize you may have thought I was criticizing you, individually. Just so you know, that’s not what I intended: I meant it as a general reaction to seeing that comparison made over and over again, and your instance of it just happened to be the one I attached it to.
Sorry about that.
That was what I read it as, no worries. I really can’t think of a better correlation like that movie though. The stupid people part is key.
Ah, I see how we differ now. I think the key isn’t just that they’re stupid, but more importantly that they’re incurious, mean-spirited, cowardly, and duped by propaganda. And that the leadership is malicious and corrupt, not merely incompetent. As such, I think just about every other dystopia is a better fit than Idiocracy is. 1984, Fahrenheit 451, Star Wars: Andor – take your pick!
Yeah the 5 months thing… That’s the difference between having a $400/hour lawyer and no lawyer. The first guy could get you out by 6:00 p.m. on bail. If you have no lawyer, your appointment to be assigned lawyer is scheduled for next month.
What kind of fucking court would accept AI output as evidence, even for probable cause? Where has it ever been validated? What are the documented Type 1 and Type 2 error rates in independent peer-reviewed tests? Where is the output that gives the rationale for why it said there was a match? Because without that, there’s no more reason to believe it than a Magic 8-Ball.
And holy shit, she’s 50? That’s three miles of bad Tennesee road.
doesn’t sound like a court was even involved. per the article, she was held in jail 5 months before even being interviewed by police. that sounds entirely unconstitutional?? how does that even happen? like someone said below, i hope she is able to sue for millions. this is insane
Well its possible because we have a constitutional right to a speedy and quick trial in the united states.
So, since it is a constitutional right they get to shit all over it and do whatever the fuck they want to us anyway.
The Constitution has never once showed up to save anyone. People show up to save the constitution. Or they don’t.
Or they don’t.
Welcome to the current presidency.
And holy shit, she’s 50? That’s three miles of bad Tennesee road.
Alcohol can be rough on the body.
According to the court documents, the Fargo detective working the case then looked at Lipps’ social media accounts and Tennessee driver’s license photo.
In his charging document, the detective wrote that Lipps appeared to be the suspect based on facial features, body type and hairstyle and color.
Seems like a possibility the detective could have conveniently “forgot” to mention that the initial identification was by AI.
What a bunch of incompetent pigs. I hope she sures for millions.
More money out of our pockets to cover for these useless fucks
This is the part that infuriates me. The cops that fucked up will face no repercussions. It’s the tax payers that will foot the bill for this obviously incoming lawsuit and settlement. The solution is clear. Make cops get the equivalent of doctor’s malpractice insurance. Then make the insurance companies pay the settlement. And when the cops insurance payments go up, the cop has to pay. Or stop being a cop because they suck at it. Problem solved.
Let’s not forget about this part:
On Christmas Eve, five days after the interview with Fargo police, the case was dismissed, and she was released from jail.
But, Lipps was now stranded in Fargo.
“I had my summer clothes on, no coat, it was so cold outside, snow on the ground, scared, I wanted out but I didn’t know what I was going to do, how I was going to get home,” Lipps said.
Fargo police did not cover Angela’s expenses to get home after her release from jail. Local defense attorneys gave her money to pay for a hotel room and food on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.
This shit was barely one step up from a “starlight tour,” and only because she didn’t actually die of exposure.
It’s sadistic on top of being unjust. The cops need to [redacted].
No, cops jailed her!
AI can’t put handcuffs on a person.
It can’t even make a decision.
Stop deflecting the blame.vendors certainly deserve a share for convincing cops their shit is flawless.
here’s another example, where the cops trusted the casino AI face matching over the guy’s own identifications (plural, all kinds of IDs on him and he had a CDL etc.,)
Yes, the vendors share part of the blame.
The AI doesn’t.Edit for clarification: AI can’t share any blame. It’s a computer program.
The company that makes it is fully responsible for what it does, and the cops are responsible for believing its output over actual proof.boy you really stan for shitty code don’t you? the AI did nothing wrong, it’s only bad people.
guess what buddy: simping for AI isn’t going to save you. What a pickme tho lol… jfc
You completely, utterly misunderstood my comment.
What do you propose? Put the AI on trial for false imprisonment?AI can’t share any blame.
nah man, open your horizons. there’s plenty of blame to go around.
You’ve completely missed the point. Nobody is saying that AI is fine and trustworthy.
How do you propose to punish software? How are you going to compel compensation, retribution, or justice from a computer program? It’s not possible. Nor should one even try - because it wasn’t AI that arrested her, it wasn’t AI that left her in jail for months, it wasn’t AI that fucked her over. It was cops that trusted shitty AI.
AI sucks - nobody in this thread is arguing against that. There’s lots of shitty software, though. The problem with AI is that is that those in power are trusting people’s lives with it and people are getting fucked because of it. If you’re focusing on the software, you’re excusing the cops.
How do you propose to punish software?
tazer the servers repeatedly while screaming “STOP RESISTING”
Your lack of imagination is sad.
Facial recognition software. Whether it’s AI or not is debatable.
