• But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Argentina get what it deserves. For decades they have been the far right nuts of the Latin world, pardon me, argentinans think they’re European

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      3 days ago

      Pardon my french, but you kinda sound like a xenophobic dick. We don’t deserve the country to fail, no one does. Also, Argentina’s been “far right” for decades? What? I don’t know what you’re smoking but it’s making you pretty delusional xD

      I’ve read this “donkey meat” news story several times now on Lemmy and I hate to disappoint you but no, no one is eating “donkey meat” here. I’ve never seen or heard of anyone eating that in my entire life. Everyone I know is eating meat (cow or pig meat btw haha) throughout the week and an asado on the weekend.

      Milei’s a dumbass though, and I hope we can get rid of him asap. He’s done a lot of harm to the country.

      argentinans think they’re European

      What does this even mean?

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        This is usually the case. There seems to be a nugget of truth in it, but articles always make it seem larger than life. Horse mule and donkey meat consumption is in fact up. Is it significant - no. Is it common, also no. Is it a THING? Na, no it’s not a thing. It’s simply slightly higher than it was before but still very rare.

        It doesn’t make sense for it to be a common thing as there simply is not enough donkeys in the country, even if you were to slaughter them all for it is be common. Apparently there is 59k donkeys and 50,920,790 cows in Argentina. There seems to be a 7-16% increase in the slaughter of donkeys for meat although this number seems to be in question. It apparently is a third the cost of cow meat.

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          2 days ago

          Please, show me a single real world example where “donkey meat” is being sold or consumed. I’m not speaking about something I researched online. I live in Argentina and have travelled to many different cities there as well.

      • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        Im an indigenous Latino, wanna talk about xenophobia? Argentinans are masters at it. They look down at EVERYONE

        And how is it xenophobic to point out they elect morons and far right trash? Thats just fact. Thats like saying im xenophobic cause I hate trump

        Ps. I know a bunch of Argentinans and they insist they are of European bloor, Spaniards and Italians. They are offended if you lump them in with other Latinos. They think Latinos are garabage, they no joke say they’re white

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          “Indigenous latino” is so damn broad that I have literally no idea what you’re referring to, exactly.

          wanna talk about xenophobia? Argentinans are masters at it

          Seems like you either encountered some shitty people (believe me, you can find those in any country) or you’re just a rather unpleasant person that mistook being treated as such, for xenophobia. From where I’m standing, both seem entirely plausible.

          And how is it xenophobic to point out they elect morons and far right trash? Thats just fact.

          Firstly, who from the previous governments in the past decades was democraticatically elected and was “far right”? Second, show me a country that hasn’t elected at least a few shitty presidents in the past few decades. I’ll wait.

          Thats like saying im xenophobic cause I hate trump

          You might want to revisit the definition of the word.

          Ps. I know a bunch of Argentinans and they insist they are of European bloor, Spaniards and Italians.

          Well, my great-grandparents where german and spanish and tons of friends’ grandparents are first generation european immigrants. There’s a reason why so many people in Argentina have european passports. I couldn’t care less about that. Why does that bother you though?

          They are offended if you lump them in with other Latinos. They think Latinos are garabage, they no joke say they’re white

          Who cares if they’re offended? Like I said, shitty people are everywhere. And why does it bother you that some argentinians are white? I’ve been spoken to as if I were a local in Italy, spain, germany, austria and france. If they’re “white” then I guess so am I? That doesn’t mean I identify as european. I am and will always be produdly argentinian.

          You sound like you have some issues dude. See a therapist, it might help.

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      To be fair the oligarchy tech companies do mass social media manipulation that is basically unchecked.

      They do this at the behest of other countries.

      I realize we all want to hold people accountable. there is definitely a level of personal responsibility. But it’s worth be aware that mass manipulation is a thing.

      It can work fairly effectively.

      especially when news and social media is controlled.

      Most people are conformist. It’s actually kind of how we as a species have dominated the planet.

      Everything that makes us great is also a weakness.

      We can make snap judgments. Act instead of letting things happen. Like a lion nabbing us.
      We use mental shortcuts and heuristics to do this. The same processes that cause stereotypes and biases.

      We look to other humans to learn how to do things like hunt, care for children, grow crops. Determine which plants can be eaten. This reliance on learning from others and doing as they do means we accept many social norms without questioning them. And even if a few people do, these individuals are outcast. Conformity is highly enforced in most cultures.

      There is also ways of grooming people that are very effective and the methods are well known.
      Cults use them. But so do politicians and other leaders like the anti vaccine people and grifters.

      For instance. The more you hear something, the more you believe it’s true because it becomes “common knowledge”. Which is rarely questioned.

      The Tech people and grifters manipulating public opinions understands these things about humans. And they use them.

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        2 days ago

        I know Argentinans and they get PISSED if you call them Latinos or lump them in with other Latin nations, they look down on the rest of us. They will insist their blood is Spaniard and Italian, therefore white

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      3 days ago

      Argentines are wildly unstable and switch between left and right like a grandfather clock.

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          They swing from hard left to hard right and vice versa. Example:

          Health care is a human right per the Argentine constitution, yet the current president has made it so that you must purchase travel insurance before entering.

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      Argentina fell for western misinformation in western platforms, entirely unsurprising that these things happen when people are exposed to that shit

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        Except this has been happening in Argentina for a long long time?

        They tend to be more isolated and believe they are above other Latin American people so they have always been more right wing

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          Yes, Argentina suffered a CIA sponsored fascist regime that consolidated the wealth, media and power of the country in a select far right elite, and they’re still suffering the consequences, this is part of the same problem