• SavvyWolf@pawb.socialEnglish
    2·
    3 days ago

    I love how you need to stretch out positives for gnome to have that many. “Uh… It’s popular? And some of the applications have good names, I guess?”

    • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.mlEnglish
      66·
      7 days ago

      There’s an extension that lets you do that. Once a week it breaks and makes icons appear over other windows.

    • anyhow2503@lemmy.world
      193·
      7 days ago

      Icons on the desktop is a non-feature for most gnome users. Even my Windows desktop has been empty since XP released. If you really want desktop icons then using an extension for that should be fine, but it’s silly to frame this as a failing of the “Gnome people” just because Gnome doesn’t replicate the classic Windows desktop experience.

      • BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world
        11·
        6 days ago

        Icons on the desktop is a non-feature for most gnome users

        Yeah because everyone who uses them is on KDE now.

        • anyhow2503@lemmy.world
          7·
          6 days ago

          Probably, yeah? I mean I’d hope they’re not still using Gnome if desktop icons are their one wish in life…

      • Lumisal@lemmy.world
        111·
        6 days ago

        Then why have a desktop? Why not just an app drawer or always ready terminal?

        Seems like the worst of both worlds in terms of utilitarianism and aesthetics.

        • anyhow2503@lemmy.world
          101·
          6 days ago

          For all intents and purposes I don’t have a desktop. It’s just a wallpaper and canvas for the actual workflow. The app drawer is one keypress away, as is the terminal (and I prefer to have separate sessions for different tasks anyway). I usually see my desktop for about five seconds after bootup per day so there’s not much reason to put anything else there. Think of it like the wallpaper or black background of a tiling window manager. I really don’t get how this is such a crazy idea to some people. I’ve subconsciously used the exact same workflow since before Gnome even implemented it, just without explicit support from my desktop environment.

        • matlag@sh.itjust.works
          5·
          6 days ago

          That’s the beauty of KDE: you can make it pretty much anything you like and customize it: desktop icons or not, using the app menu or krunner, a mix of all, etc.

      • elucubra@sopuli.xyz
        5·
        7 days ago

        I have icons on my desktop, icons in my taskbar, and of course the menu. taskbar, always there, one click, boom! second tier apps, desktop, less used stuff, open menu.

        I use KDE BTW

        • anyhow2503@lemmy.world
          8·
          7 days ago

          Whatever floats your boat. I’m using my keyboard probably 90% of the time and hitting super and typing in one to three letters followed by enter is the fastest way for me to navigate to pretty much anything including system settings and documents. Finding stuff on a desktop with more than a dozen icons is annoying to me. I move windows and switch focus with the standard keyboard shortcuts etc. It’s a familiar workflow for tiling WM users and works that way out of the box, yet Gnome has been catching shit for it since v3. It used to be the disgruntled Gnome 2 userbase but nowadays it seems to be mostly people who don’t use Gnome at all lol.

    • BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world
      9·
      6 days ago

      Jesus it was pissing me off since 2017. I left Gnome in favor of KDE in 2019 You’re telling me you still can’t make a shortcut like a human being???

  • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
    22·
    6 days ago

    KDE got around to updating the theme Kpersonalizer.

    Original for those who don’t remember what it was like:

    Jokes aside: I love KDE. Gnome is an idea that would work if you could actually do anything with it (maybe always adding extensions means they should you know make it functional).

    • sqauffle@slrpnk.net
      5·
      5 days ago

      Yep the design philosophy of “like it or fuck you” evokes Apple clearly enough. They’ve just cut it to the quick at this point.

  • realitaetsverlust@piefed.zipEnglish
    272·
    6 days ago

    Are we sure that Gnome is the most popular? I would’ve expected KDE to be the most popular one, even not considering the mascots.

    • EuroNutellaMan@sh.itjust.works
      6·
      5 days ago

      It’s the most popular because it’s Ubuntu’s default which happens to still be the “default linux distro”. Many GNOME users probably don’t even know what GNOME or a DE in general is (and that’s ok).

      If you ask linux nerds, however, KDE generally seems more popular but that’s probably because people who care about this sort of thing tend to value customization and KDE’s philosophy more than GNOME’s.

      Source: I use KDE on Arch BTW, guess which category I fall on.

    • Bluewing@lemmy.world
      9·
      6 days ago

      Gnome is the most popular DE for Fedora. Though KDE is popular enough to finally get Fedora to place it equally alongside their Gnome ISO. But I would bet Gnome has at least a slim lead ahead of all DEs.

      • EuroNutellaMan@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        5 days ago

        TBF it’s likely the most popular because it’s the default not necessarily because it is better than KDE (or worse, they’re both good just aimed at different people)

        • Bluewing@lemmy.world
          2·
          5 days ago

          Today, which one you might choose has more to do with how you vibe with either one. So there is no “wrong” choice. But back in the early days, Gnome was the better DE. More polished and definitely more stable. I can remember the crashes and the total crash and burn of KDE from those days. That gave Gnome the leg up to becoming default for many distros.

          These days. KDE Plasma is every bit as good as Gnome.

    • Hugging Stars@programming.dev
      3·
      6 days ago

      No way to get reliable numbers without telemetry but KDE’s userbase is a lot louder for sure.

      All three major enterprise distros use GNOME, none of them officially support KDE.

      • Integrate777@discuss.online
        4·
        6 days ago

        I think so too. GNOME famously doesn’t prioritize customisation, which despite lots of angry complaints, still doesn’t intend to change. That’s because they already have a solid user base, a silent group that couldn’t care less about customisation and gaming features, and mostly want it to “just work”.

        Think the Linux Torvalds type of person, using a workstation distro. Best thing GNOME can do is to minimize changes that break user’s workflows and make sure the defaults are good.

        The side effect is that they turn off their corporate machines after work and that’s it for the day. They aren’t going on forums to defend GNOME vs KDE arguments.

  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
    10·
    6 days ago

    Quick, someone make a mascot for KATE!

    Also KDE supports window decorations under Wayland, and also a lot better IMHO.

  • too_high_for_this@lemmy.world
    131·
    7 days ago

    Another reason why Linux fanboys are so silly.

    It’s just whether you grew up / are more comfortable using Windows or Mac.

    I grew up on Mac OS. My first laptop was the classic translucent blue clamshell iBook running OS X Cheetah. So when I first tried Linux, I used Gnome.

    I switched to Windows when I got into gaming. But then when I got a Steam Deck, I decided to finally make the change. So now I’m much more comfortable using KDE.

    QED.

    • kshade@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      6 days ago

      It’s just whether you grew up / are more comfortable using Windows or Mac.

      No, it’s clearly about the amount of fan art the mascots of each ecosystem have. That is also why Overwatch is clearly the greatest game of all time.

    • guynamedzero@piefed.zeromedia.vipEnglish
      8·
      7 days ago

      Idk how true that is, I grew up using exclusively macOS for 15 years, then I got my own pc with windows on it and used it for a few years before switching to Linux, KDE is easily my favorite

    • Bluewing@lemmy.world
      5·
      6 days ago

      For many of us, it was the Gnome Wars and the Devs staged their coup and took over. Because who needs to listen to your customers? You’re a Dev and you know best right?

      Gnome 2 was Da Bomba. Clean and fast with just enough user control to make you happy. I still miss Gnome2 some days. Then the War happened and we got Gnome3. And things spiralled into the hell that Gnome has become. I switched to KDE and I dabble in many other DEs for funsies. But never Gnome anymore.

      These days, I think Cinnamon DE is about as close as you can get to Gnome2. But, even that is slowly evolving away as it must.