I disagree. I want my partner to respect my feelings, and to care about not hurting my feelings. I want that because i do the same, respect their feelings and care about not hurting theirs
To me, it is cruel to not care about the feelings of other people. I guess we differ on that
I’m getting lost in the food analogy sorry, would you be willing to try and explain in a different manner?
I don’t get what you’re trying to say
Sidenote, don’t know if you mean anything by the insistent use of ‘she’ so just to clarify, I’m bi, my hypothetical partner could just as easily be a dude or non binary or anything else really
Makes sense! All this is secondhand knowledge from a bunch of friends who are cooks for a living, so not based on any personal experiences, maybe probably should’ve clarified that earlier lol
I don’t agree with your twist of my analogy. I expect you to be honest about a meal you serve to me if you know i care about its contents, just as i expect that you are honest about any other thing you know i find important. IMO thats the core of respect, and respect in a relationship is a huge thing for me.
So it might seem inherently irrational to you, i just dont get why that matters at all. Again, in my view, how the person i care about, feel about a particular thing that’s important to them, supersedes how i personally feel about it, because i care about - and respect - the PERSON, not the thing in question.
That i don’t get at all. I really don’t think it’s too much to expect honesty from your significant other. In my world, that’s about the one person where you owe absolute honesty, all other relations yeah lying ain’t THAT big a deal.
Lying to yourself (breaking a diet) i agree is a victimless crime, but lying to others isn’t, as that is at the expense of the person being deceived. Lying to a random ass person is of course much less a deal than lying to your significant other, and in both situations it’s of course also dependant on the thing being lied about. A vegetarian would be very mad about being told a lie that the meal they were being served is vegetarian if it actually contained meat, and rightfully so imo.
In i think that might be getting to the core of it. It might not be a big deal to you, and that’s of course totally okay and your right and just as natural as any other proposition, BUT, failing to recognize that this might be important to the person, and then proceed to lie about that thing just because you yourself don’t think it’s that big a deal, is not okay in my book.
For me, it’s about respecting the internal worldview of the other person, and recognizing that it is just as important as my own. If something is a deal breaker for my partner, i don’t give a rats ass how important I think it is, what’s important is respecting that my partner cares a great deal about it. And if my partner cannot show the same towards me, that’s not a relationship i want to be in. And we do all have the right to say no to a relationship we don’t want, right?
If you care about addicts, advocate for spending money on social services that help these people. Killing (or imprisoning) dealers have no real effect, we have decades of data on this.
P sure (but not entirely) that thats for when you purposely want to remove the lining, fx for resale, to make it look brand new
Havent personally heard chainmail reccomended tho, mostly heard of steel sponges, chainmail sounds way cooler tho lol
Metal tools also scrape the bottom lining that forms over time off, which is a big no no when cooking with cast iron.
Makes sense, just your wording that confused me
Wooden spoons are better for cooking with cast iron pots and pans, which a blacksmith, being knowledgeable about metal, would be vey aware of.
Just as the it person is way more aware of the pitfalls of smart tech than your average person
Do you actually think its unethical to expect people not to lie? Trying to understand here, very far from my own set of beliefs :)
Social punishment isnt inherent to the social relation we call monogamy, thats social norms, a connected but different thing. We can all agree social norms often disparage people, but again different conversation.
And its not ‘a fact’ that people in monogamous relations have consent over the other persons body, in fact, they only have consent over their own. If the other person doesnt want to do monogamy, they are free to pursue that type of relation on their own. Thats their choice, as it is the monogamous persons choice to not stay in a relationship with a partner that doesnt want a monogamous relationship. Insisting they have to be together, irregardles of the wishes of the other person, sounds unproductive and unhealthy to me.
“We treat monogamy as a natural thing” i dont. I recognize societal norms propogate one type of relationship, but that is once again a different conversation than the supposed ethicalness of a specific social dynamic. The dynamic an sich is different from the norms around it.
Dont let your grievences with the system become judgements of the people caught within.
I never called you unethical.
I also find it ironic how you managed to compare monogamy to slavery, and then proceed to call me the unserious one. I dont see how they are comparable at all.
How is a relationship wherein both people agree that, as long as they are together they only have sex with one another, and, if that agreement can no longer be honored, to go their separate ways, be unethical? Thats consent and boundary establishment and free association all the way through…
It’s interesting you say you dont get why people are so obsessed with other people’s genitals, when you seemingly care very much about the supposed unethicalness of other adults consentual sex lives. You’ve somehow managed to flip the very same ideological structure that has allowed poly people to be prosecuted historically, and just pointed that oppressive structure at monogamous folks instead. It’s in essence the very same mechanism just with the details flipped.
I think you should reflect upon that. It’s obvious from your comments that there’s the same sort of mechanism at play as when traditionalists prejudice poly people. It’s a failure to empathize. Some things work best for some people, and that’s okay, let them live in their way, and some other things work best for some other people, and that’s okay too, also let them live in their way.
Whatever man, the wooden spoons taste better i guess, that’s the reason now