How can it do harm, to assume that other living beings might be suffering? What kind of situation could ever be worse, by just being a bit less self-centered?

Nature invented diseases that would kill you by the time you’re 30 and yet I don’t see you running naked outside to go die. Nature has never been something to follow, and especially not morally.

Wow, impressive gymnastics you’re doing here to try to make it ok to abuse animals.

Sure, let’s just assume that it’s fine and continue, I mean it’s not like it just keeps on being proven wrong.

What is your point exactly? What good does it bring, to try to find ways to justify something that is likely harmful? What good does it bring you, to assume that animals that feel pain probably don’t suffer still, other than just to delude yourself into thinking that it’s ok for you to inflict pain to them?

Or like, don’t use AI at all.

I’m talking about softwares that emulate steam to disable their DRMs. I know that they’re generally seen badly as they are linked to less legal ways to get games, but I’ve been using those to avoid having to run steam everytime I want to start a game, and I would say that it works in most cases. Especially useful when you cannot afford to have a reliable internet connection, and steam decides to be a bitch about it.

Even though Borderland could be one of these games with extra DRM protections, then yeah it might not work.

Obviously, GoG is generally better and makes everything much more straightforward.

I mean, it’s generally possible to make steam games run without steam

Wow, we found the dude from another era that thinks that free is all that matters.

Big genius.

Try to kill them

Why did you create a new account? The old one was tagged too much?

Hardening with AI, lmao

As I said, they exist, they just have no impact.

A slippery slope is a had argument, but my point here was that we are visibly on the slope. We see more and more people tolerate AIs, including shit like slopcoding and slopart and the like. You can even see it on lemmy, which is probably one of the most AI-hostile places you’ll find. It’s more like starting to have heart problems after eating chips everyday, and thinking “heh, it’ll be fine, I’m not going to have a heart attack”. The opposite of the slippery slope, assuming that everything will be fine no matter what, is not more logical.

And good for you, but you’re a tiny minority. Your point of view is not shared by most AI users, even on lemmy.

Yeah, well you do you. It doesn’t take a long time looking at how the world is evolving to have a view of what’s coming.

I’m saying that “no one” runs a local, green-powered model, like yeah a handful of people probably do but they have no impact at all.

And when you start with the mentality of the “it’s there so why not use it”, you are much more prone to let more happen. If when someone gets murdered, everyone reacts by just mourning and not trying to find out who did it, and to prevent further murders, things won’t get better.

AIs need to be fought with the strongest force or they’ll win. That’s why you already see a split between “no AI here” places, and “oh yeah I’m just using AIs for this and this and that, but reasonably, and I also tried generating images but just for fun, and I made a slopsoftware just to be quicker, and I’m using it more because it frees my time, etc”.

It’s a slippery slope argument, you might say, but we’re seeing it happen. People slowly accept AIs, just like they slowly accept capitalism, just like they accept fascism, and just like they accept all those brain-killing things that are hammered into their heads by everyone around. The only way to resist is to unequivocally reject it, not tolerate exceptions, and once the problem is solved, once AIs are green and powered by the wind, we can have fun running our local models and whatnot.

TLDR: I get your point, but I think it’s a position that is very vulnerable to being corrupted, and the state of the world, including FOSS software and the like, seem to support my point of view.

If the model is pretrained, then you are just outsourcing the main costs. Running the model isn’t the most expensive part.

And let’s face it, no one does what you described, and the ones that do are not the ones going around defending the other ways to use AIs.

Is your project worth destroying the world? Or is it that as a dad with a full time job, you consider that you’ll die before seeing the consequences that will torture and kill your kids, and so it’s not your concern?

Everywhere it’s just fuck AI because it’s the modern plague, so it’s a pretty good sign that you’re struggling to find people who like AI here.

You ok buddy?

If you feel so violently threatened by some comments, there’s definitely something wrong about your situation. Being bothered is one thing, having a mental breakdown about it is another.

Wow, I check quickly your account and randomly fall upon a lot of shit.

Go back to facebook, seriously, we don’t need people coming here to spread the crap of those shitholes here. Go be a bigot somewhere else.

It’s not contradictory as I was talking through my perspective, and not through the perspective of a fascist government.

And it’s not just a matter of trust, but of privacy. Even if you fully trust a friend, it doesn’t mean that it’s fine for them to be watching you at all times.

No.

Cameras don’t prevent crime. They don’t prevent accidents. They’re at most used to find afterwards what happened.

By the time a cop would decide to bother and check the cameras, and find you in the footage, and trace your steps through the various cameras, you would have been back on your own already.

The ideas that cameras are a matter of security for the people is propaganda. They are here to destroy privacy and allow the elimination of opponents and dissidents, they don’t really care about crime. Doesn’t mean that cops would never use them for other purposes, but they definitely don’t care as much as you think. And of course, caring isn’t the same thing as being able to do anything in a reasonable time.

So many critical bugs and security holes have been made from an oversight of the people handling the code.

Now you want to tell me that instead of having people write code that tries to make sense, and then review it (sometimes a bit too late), you want to have an hallucination machine produce some code randomly, then have people “fix” it, then review it?

This is just a recipe for disaster.

AIs are not “AIs”, they’re just bullshit generators that everyone is falling for. Technical debt and lack of code reliability were the main problems of software dev, and AIs are sacrificing those two specifically, just in exchange for the illusion of speed.

If you train monkeys to pile up bricks, it doesn’t make a house, it makes a disaster waiting to happen. And monkeys, unlike AIs, are actually intelligent and sentient, which would make them more reliable still.