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  • Yeah, that’s not how any of this works. I apologize for the caps, but just so I can make this clear for you: YOU DIDN’T BUY THE MUSIC

    The devs/publisher licensed the use of certain music in their games for a specific duration. I feel like I’m just having to tell you this again and again. Your idea of “well, they could have just…”, no. It has nothing to do with bugfixes or security issues. It has to do with the license expiring. If they don’t have a valid license to the music it must be removed (ex. GTA4).

    If the music license expires, the game cannot be sold with the music still in it. If the developers or publisher wants to keep selling the game, they need to either remove the music or renew the license. If the developers decide to not sell the game anymore, they should still be allowed to update the game without having to remove the music.

    AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A THING. Please keep comments based in reality and not your “perfect world” thoughts on what reality should be. Reality.


  • A game can be updated after a music license expires AND after the game is no longer being sold. The update should not be forced to include music removal if the update happens after the expiry date of the music license, but only if the game is no longer for sale.

    Ok, so this is literally just your own wishful thinking. So, based on what you are wanting, the anti-SKG lawyers have a REALLY good point:

    A game goes offline officially and private servers or something fan-made pops up. The devs STILL have to pay for the music licensing for all time now. Thankfully, that’s not how any of this works or will work. That’s crazy stupid.


  • Ok, you said licensed music should be removed for games that continue to be sold and then later said music should not be removed even if they choose to make updates:

    this clause only applies to games that continue to be sold

    even if they choose to make updates to the game available, music removal should not be mandatory

    You then go back on the second comment:

    Whether the game is updated or supported beyond the music expiry license should not be part of the license agreement, and should be only based on whether it continues to be sold or not

    Maybe I’m getting confused on sold vs updated as in either case that’s a product being maintained. And I think you can already license music indefinitely, but you have to pay the copyright owner a lot more money. But to say expiry should not be part of a licensing agreement is a wild take.

    Not that I’m complaining, but that’s just piracy.



  • The subscription model exemption is interesting. Blizzard could shut down WoW and that would be it (I know private servers exist - I’m talking in terms of their responsibility). I wonder if that would push more publishers into subscription models to bypass the law if it passes. Like ARC Raiders could be $1 a month and then when they kill it, they kill it without legal objection.

    To be fair, the ESA does raise a good point about licensed music, though. That’s like GTA4. A lot of the music was removed on PC because of license expiration and people were mad, but they can’t legally keep it in the game if it’s expired.

    Will be interesting to see how all the chips land in the SKG movement.




  • I’ve used Arch as my daily for so many years now, it is a little tricky moving from imperative to declarative configuration. I’m treating my NixOS machine more as long term maintenance, so I’m not using the most bleeding edge packages. You can do that though by pointing to nixos-unstable.

    I plan on using flakes for pinning and home-manager for writing ~/.config configurations, but I don’t think I really need it, more just to learn how. With home-manager, I could rebuild this machine from scratch (including individual application preferences/settings) just with the backed up configs. I can at any point rollback to any saved previous generation though, too, just by restarting the machine.

    I’ve really been impressed with it though. To the point, I will probably be moving my Arch DIY router over and converting it to NixOS.