• SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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    2 days ago

    There were of course other people at Tesla- smart people who made lots of good choices.

    I’m simply pointing out that your initial assertion (that other people made most of the good decisions, Elon showed up after those decisions were made and took credit) is demonstrably false, given that pre-Elon the company was proceeding down an ultimately failed engineering path.

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      24 hours ago

      Okay, now you are changing what I said to continue to make your point that “Elon saved the company” which is very different from your original claim that “Elon provided the vision”.

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        12 hours ago

        If I wasn’t clear, then allow me to clarify. This is and always was my position and I believe it is supported by facts (which is why it’s my position).

        1. Elon was one of the original cofounders of Tesla. He wasn’t on the registration paperwork because one of the original founders already had an LLC registered and they decided to use that rather than make a new one. The LLC had little activity or money before Elon and others decided to make it happen.

        2. Elon left Tesla largely to Eberhard at that point.

        3. After a lot of transmission failures, Elon concluded that Eberhard was making bad decisions at Tesla. He pushed Eberhard out and took over as CEO.

        4. What followed were objectively good engineering decisions- things like deleting the gearbox and upsizing the electric motor. Under Elon the Roadster design was finished and it shipped, the Model S sedan came out as the first real mass produced electric car to hit the streets, followed by models X 3 and Y. The Y became one of the best selling vehicles in the world. During this time, the engineering decisions made by Elon/Tesla have been proven correct many times over.

        Do you factually disagree with any of this?

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          8 hours ago

          Lol. Oh man after reading that I couldn’t care less. It’s not that your ‘facts’ are wrong, it’s just that what we think are important facts are very different.