Profit, I can purchase stamps to communicate with those on the other side of techtopia.
Jokes aside the curve is too steep, feature parity lacking and network effects too strong. I would like to but where is the on ramp? Do I have to go back to blurry slow cameras and no face unlock or fingerprint? NFC? Car projection? Can I get a sandboxed whatsapp?
But sure I could go back to te stoneage so, are you offering an alternative or not?
Its easy to tell people to value privacy, which I do, but the reality is that to encourage privacy being adopted you need to offer or incentivise its adoption.
It affects you if you dont, your number in my phone is scraped all the same. Your secure emails land in my insecure inbox.
No, he has a point. Linux phones are not an alternative at this point because they aren’t even remotely close to feature parity. It’s like arguing MS Paint is a viable alternative to Photoshop. Currently there are few if any actual alternatives to either iPhones or flagship Android phones. The best you can do at the moment is one of the de-Googled flavors of Android but that only buys you so much and even then you’re losing a fair amount of functionality.
I actually bought a Linux phone a few years ago but the experience then was so terrible it wasn’t much better than a pre-smartphone like an old Nokia. It seems like things have improved a lot since then, but even now it’s not to a standard that a Linux phone is a viable alternative for anyone that needs more than just a web browser and basic calling and texting. Hopefully it will get there soon, but it’s definitely not there yet.
the point being “I prefer being sodomized by corporations instead of putting some effort in switching to an alternative”?
well yes, as I already said you totally can, but it’s already backfiring so I wonder where do you people draw the line, assuming there is a line at all.
Nah man you are not arguing in good faith. Linux has come on leaps and bounds since I first tried it in school and it is now my desktop OS. It is cumbersome but worth it. If it was only available as a terminal or CLI or whatever I would not be using it.
At a certain point what you areadvocating isnt an alternative so much as advocacy for advocacy sake. Just telling people to leave a product is the same as saying the alternative isnt an alternative.
your (you and the other user too) comparisons and depiction of Linux devices and software are the only things in bad faith here.
even more so since we aren’t talking about ideals and philosophies here, but about google actually attempting to “close” Android.
so, once more, where do you draw the line?
personally I’ve already ditched google years ago because it was the right thing to do, now my current phone will be the last android device I’ll use because it’s gonna be the next right thing to do.
there isn’t much to argue here: keep using android and expect worse than this, or ditch it and boycott that turd of google.
Buy linux phone
Try to figure out how to make it work
Where are my apps
Why is the camera shit?
Profit, I can purchase stamps to communicate with those on the other side of techtopia.
Jokes aside the curve is too steep, feature parity lacking and network effects too strong. I would like to but where is the on ramp? Do I have to go back to blurry slow cameras and no face unlock or fingerprint? NFC? Car projection? Can I get a sandboxed whatsapp?
then give up your freedom for the features you are used to, but don’t complain later.
But sure I could go back to te stoneage so, are you offering an alternative or not?
Its easy to tell people to value privacy, which I do, but the reality is that to encourage privacy being adopted you need to offer or incentivise its adoption.
It affects you if you dont, your number in my phone is scraped all the same. Your secure emails land in my insecure inbox.
you are mixing privacy and freedom, but generally speaking all alternatives need effort, including the one I already gave you.
be the change you want to see, as they say.
or don’t but then this happens and it sucks more than not having NFC or whatever.
No, he has a point. Linux phones are not an alternative at this point because they aren’t even remotely close to feature parity. It’s like arguing MS Paint is a viable alternative to Photoshop. Currently there are few if any actual alternatives to either iPhones or flagship Android phones. The best you can do at the moment is one of the de-Googled flavors of Android but that only buys you so much and even then you’re losing a fair amount of functionality.
I actually bought a Linux phone a few years ago but the experience then was so terrible it wasn’t much better than a pre-smartphone like an old Nokia. It seems like things have improved a lot since then, but even now it’s not to a standard that a Linux phone is a viable alternative for anyone that needs more than just a web browser and basic calling and texting. Hopefully it will get there soon, but it’s definitely not there yet.
Phone as payment is the real hurdle.
A Steam Deck could be used to call and text. It’s all the digital ID encroachment that’s keeping people from ditching mainstream operating systems.
the point being “I prefer being sodomized by corporations instead of putting some effort in switching to an alternative”?
well yes, as I already said you totally can, but it’s already backfiring so I wonder where do you people draw the line, assuming there is a line at all.
Nah man you are not arguing in good faith. Linux has come on leaps and bounds since I first tried it in school and it is now my desktop OS. It is cumbersome but worth it. If it was only available as a terminal or CLI or whatever I would not be using it.
At a certain point what you areadvocating isnt an alternative so much as advocacy for advocacy sake. Just telling people to leave a product is the same as saying the alternative isnt an alternative.
your (you and the other user too) comparisons and depiction of Linux devices and software are the only things in bad faith here.
even more so since we aren’t talking about ideals and philosophies here, but about google actually attempting to “close” Android.
so, once more, where do you draw the line?
personally I’ve already ditched google years ago because it was the right thing to do, now my current phone will be the last android device I’ll use because it’s gonna be the next right thing to do.
there isn’t much to argue here: keep using android and expect worse than this, or ditch it and boycott that turd of google.
Hey, no kink shaming!