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    2 days ago

    There’s no such thing as objective morality. At some fundamental level you’re just deciding who benefits from your moral compass and who doesn’t.

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      If objective morality isn’t real, the only reason you’ll have to condemn this is that it goes against your culture. Which is cultural supremacy to some degree

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        Objective morality isn’t real. If it were, you’d be able to prove it.

        And it’s difficult to argue, coming from a deeply red area of the US that I’m coming from a culture that vilifies the death penalty.

        The closest you’ll ever get to an objective moral truth is that you’re free to believe any fucking thing you want, but your rights stop at you. Imposing your beliefs on another living being is supremacy.

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          1 day ago

          If God is real, then Objective Morality is real. If white society wishes to secularise, they have to realise that they no longer have a justification to tell other cultures what to do.

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            20 hours ago

            Ok.

            God isn’t real. If a being of infinite power does exist, it is apathetic, ignorant, or cruel.

            If the source of your objective morality is a fairy tale, you have no basis for claiming your morality is objective, let alone accurate.

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              How do you define cruelty without God being real? How can you know for sure that God is apathetic or ignorant?

              If there is no basis for objective morality at all, we have no grounds to condemn other cultures for actions that go against our culture. I would condemn cruelty happening abroad because I believe everyone is made in the image of God, and God’s commandment for all of Humanity was to love one and other. If God isn’t real, then why should I care what happens in other countries, if the only morality I have is based on my white, western culture?

              If there is no God, humans are just lumps of cells anyway, not too far removed from plants and animals. So why would it be my business what is going on abroad?