Surely widespread surveillance technology has no possible unintended consequences, certainly this can only end well
(It uses GPS. At a minimum it would lay the groundwork for location tracking of every new vehicle sold. Nevermind any consequences that are actually unforeseeable.)
Yeah, I meant specifically in reply to someone saying it should be standard. Well designed as an installed device like a breathalyzer to start the car I could see it potentially being a worthwhile tool in addition to licence revocation, since folks often still drive on revoked licenses.
But I think you’d need to design it very carefully for a variety of reasons including road saftey- taking away agency from the person operating the vehicle always has potential risks that would need to be carefully considered and mitigated as best as possible
Fair enough then, I can’t see the comment you were replying to so I didn’t know that. As for the revoked license thing, I honestly think you should be forced to sell your car if your license gets revoked, with significant penalties for anyone else that allows someone with a revoked license to drive their car.
Im pretty sure all new cars already have GPS and cellular service installed. The federal government also passed legislation to mandate “driver fatigue” cameras in the dash stating in 2027 (part of Biden’s big infrastructure bill), which will monitor your face and track your eyes constantly and not allow you to drive if it thinks you’re fatigued or impaired.
I have a brand new car. It has a DCM, a digital communications module. The module has a single fuse. Did you know you can pull the fuse out, and suddenly your car is deaf, dumb, blind, and mute? Sure, no more GPS, but IDGAF. For a better, more permanent solution, you can disconnect the wires going to the DCM, and install a wiring sub-harness to completely bypass it. It can’t receive data from the car anymore–which means it’s also not able to store data that can be downloaded by a mechanic later–and the battery that powers the eSIM will die in a day or so.
Fuck big data, and fuck you for suggesting that it’s okay just because it’s existed in some form for ~50 years.
Surely widespread surveillance technology has no possible unintended consequences, certainly this can only end well
(It uses GPS. At a minimum it would lay the groundwork for location tracking of every new vehicle sold. Nevermind any consequences that are actually unforeseeable.)
It’s not built into cars inherently, so at least that’s not a concern.
Yeah, I meant specifically in reply to someone saying it should be standard. Well designed as an installed device like a breathalyzer to start the car I could see it potentially being a worthwhile tool in addition to licence revocation, since folks often still drive on revoked licenses.
But I think you’d need to design it very carefully for a variety of reasons including road saftey- taking away agency from the person operating the vehicle always has potential risks that would need to be carefully considered and mitigated as best as possible
Fair enough then, I can’t see the comment you were replying to so I didn’t know that. As for the revoked license thing, I honestly think you should be forced to sell your car if your license gets revoked, with significant penalties for anyone else that allows someone with a revoked license to drive their car.
All good :)
I feel like that has too many practical implications to be great policy in practice, but I can certainly agree with the sentiment
Im pretty sure all new cars already have GPS and cellular service installed. The federal government also passed legislation to mandate “driver fatigue” cameras in the dash stating in 2027 (part of Biden’s big infrastructure bill), which will monitor your face and track your eyes constantly and not allow you to drive if it thinks you’re fatigued or impaired.
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I have a brand new car. It has a DCM, a digital communications module. The module has a single fuse. Did you know you can pull the fuse out, and suddenly your car is deaf, dumb, blind, and mute? Sure, no more GPS, but IDGAF. For a better, more permanent solution, you can disconnect the wires going to the DCM, and install a wiring sub-harness to completely bypass it. It can’t receive data from the car anymore–which means it’s also not able to store data that can be downloaded by a mechanic later–and the battery that powers the eSIM will die in a day or so.
Fuck big data, and fuck you for suggesting that it’s okay just because it’s existed in some form for ~50 years.
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