• bouh@jlai.lu
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    3 days ago

    That is absolutely not the subject of this ruling. The ruling forbid the termination of a work contract for the reason of it being replaced by AI. That is a significant difference : the problem is not to replace workers with AI, it is of who will pay in the society for it. China rules that companies will pay for the transition, not the workers and the state.

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      3 days ago

      I don’t understand your point, your job has just been made automatable, your skills superfluous… But you’re supposed to stay employed at the same place for the same thing? And “paying”, is not happening anyway, automation is a good thing, I guess you meant who is supposed to benefit from it? I completely agree that workers should not “lose” (https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/68074600/25823579), but it just logically does not make sense to stay employed when your job literally does not need to exist anymore… Instead, as a worker, you should just be able to chill now and do nothing, not indefinitely stay at a company that doesn’t need you anymore.

      This isn’t something that makes sense to be handled by companies. What if someone can not find a job in the first place because while they were studying, there was a breakthrough that made their field of study superfluous? Or someone loses (or voluntarily quits) their job because of any other reason, and then while searching for a new job, the automation breakthrough happens? Etc etc etc. Which company pays for them?

      This is just simply nothing that makes sense to be solved by individual companies, but by the government.

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        12 hours ago

        You’re missing the problem here.

        What will happen in the west (and is already happening) is that companies will automate the jobs and fire the employees because they don’t need them anymore.

        But with this, bo more jobs will be created, and the liberals in power are hard at the task of deleting any employment. So people who are fired and can’t find a new job will just starve or build an alternate economy cyberpunk style.

        The first step to prevent this crisis is to forbid companies to fire employees for this specific reason. This will give time for the society (people, government) to find solutions.

        Another problem of letting companies do whatever they want is what is expected to happen : companies fire people now not because ai can replace them, but in order to hire them later in much worse conditions than before, with ai monitoring the job of the workers.

        I 100% agree that ai is the future that can free us from work. But you can’t simply let things happen, because it would severely disrupt the whole society.

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          12 hours ago

          But you can’t simply let things happen

          Which is what I have elaborated about in a couple of other comments in this chain at this point.