Judaism can be converted to, right? So it’s not just an ethnicity.
Therefore if you think “a country for Jewish people” is very bad then what about “a country for Muslim people”? Is everyone who supports the existence of Saudi Arabia or Iran “scum”, for example?
My position is that supporting the existence of a religious country doesn’t necessarily make a person “scum”. I wouldn’t fully agree with the views of such people (since I prefer secular countries with full freedom of religion and belief) but I’m not going to regard them all as “scum”.
Yes fuck Saudi Arabia, you wouldn’t support the USA being a ‘country for christians’, and furthermore, Israel is not just for jews, its explicitly a jewish supremacist nation, but in practice its an ethnosupremacist nation. The people on top there are ‘white people’, ashkenazi jewish only, all other jewish of other ethnicities are descriminated against also. They literally forcefully sterilized converted jews from northern africa. So yes, Israel IS an ethnosupremacist state.
But either way, no country should be ‘exclusively for one religion’ that is an inherently scum mentality. Especially when the country is formed on top of another country that has a different religion, that necessitates genocide.
Especially when used to imperialist ends like Israel does. Saudi Arabia and Israel are very similar. Iran is very different, though I still don’t support the IRGC, the country itself isn’t close to ethnosupremacist in the way Israel and Suadi Arabia are. Israel is an apartheid state, supporting it means you support dehumanizing not only palestinians, but lebanese, turkish, egyptians and all arabs, black people and even iranians (who aren’t arabs).
Also a country shouldn’t it be ‘exclusively for one ethnicity’ I disagree with Japan being an ethnostate too.
As I said previously, I definitely prefer secular states with full freedom of religion and freedom of belief. On the question of ethnicity, I hope all countries will treat people as individuals (regardless of ethnicity), rather than discriminate on the basis of ethnicity.
But I just think that if you assume that all supporters of “a country for Jewish people” are scum then surely you’d also have to say that all supporters of “a country for Muslim people” are scum too. I think quite a lot of people in the world support the existence of explicitly Muslim states, but I don’t think all those people are “scum”.
It might be fair to call Netanyahu scum though, as well as Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich.
Judaism can be converted to, right? So it’s not just an ethnicity.
Therefore if you think “a country for Jewish people” is very bad then what about “a country for Muslim people”? Is everyone who supports the existence of Saudi Arabia or Iran “scum”, for example?
My position is that supporting the existence of a religious country doesn’t necessarily make a person “scum”. I wouldn’t fully agree with the views of such people (since I prefer secular countries with full freedom of religion and belief) but I’m not going to regard them all as “scum”.
Yes fuck Saudi Arabia, you wouldn’t support the USA being a ‘country for christians’, and furthermore, Israel is not just for jews, its explicitly a jewish supremacist nation, but in practice its an ethnosupremacist nation. The people on top there are ‘white people’, ashkenazi jewish only, all other jewish of other ethnicities are descriminated against also. They literally forcefully sterilized converted jews from northern africa. So yes, Israel IS an ethnosupremacist state.
But either way, no country should be ‘exclusively for one religion’ that is an inherently scum mentality. Especially when the country is formed on top of another country that has a different religion, that necessitates genocide.
Especially when used to imperialist ends like Israel does. Saudi Arabia and Israel are very similar. Iran is very different, though I still don’t support the IRGC, the country itself isn’t close to ethnosupremacist in the way Israel and Suadi Arabia are. Israel is an apartheid state, supporting it means you support dehumanizing not only palestinians, but lebanese, turkish, egyptians and all arabs, black people and even iranians (who aren’t arabs).
Also a country shouldn’t it be ‘exclusively for one ethnicity’ I disagree with Japan being an ethnostate too.
As I said previously, I definitely prefer secular states with full freedom of religion and freedom of belief. On the question of ethnicity, I hope all countries will treat people as individuals (regardless of ethnicity), rather than discriminate on the basis of ethnicity.
But I just think that if you assume that all supporters of “a country for Jewish people” are scum then surely you’d also have to say that all supporters of “a country for Muslim people” are scum too. I think quite a lot of people in the world support the existence of explicitly Muslim states, but I don’t think all those people are “scum”.
It might be fair to call Netanyahu scum though, as well as Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich.