• Yankee_Self_Loader@lemmy.world
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      Yep. When my now wife was like 13 her dad (who was in the early stages of being eaten by Fox News) didn’t want her to get the hpv vaccine fearing that she’d just be out having sex. What a wild thing to think about your own daughter. Especially for a guy who had unprotected premarital sex which made my wife

  • Maki@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    It’s almost like providing women with actual proper healthcare improves healthcare for everyone down the line. How strange and totally unforseen! /s

    Makes you wonder in which other areas improvements for one subset of humanity could conceivably improve the rest of humanity as well, doesn’t it?

    • Therefore@lemmy.world
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      Did you read a different article?

      TLDR; Men should also get the HPV vaccine, it’s not just good for cervical cancer prevention - but a range of other cancers.

      • Maki@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Fact: The HPV vaccine was developed to combat the HPV-related cervical cancer in women.

        The HPV vaccine would not have existed without raised standards in healthcare to specifically develop medicines for women based on the ailments they have as opposed to prescribing the same methods of treatment that were developed for men.

        There are still ailments women have which are largely ignored or for which they’re given the treatments developed for men with the idea that it would just work out for them, with no studies on potential side effects.

        With HPV vaccines made specifically for women, now we are able to deduce that it would also help men with various HPV-related cancers even if they do not have a cervix.

        Gender equality in medical studies and treatments is increasing, and hopefully more treatments developed for women will show additional benefits for the larger population in due time.

        If cervical cancer in women had never been treated, the benefits of the HPV vaccine for men would have never been discovered.

        My statement remains correct, and you entirely missed its meaning.

    • quips@slrpnk.net
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      God lemmy is insufferable. The most unhappy group of people on the internet

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        Brother you are the insufferable unhappy person. You replied with this to a lighthearted comment about how a rising tide lifts all ships.

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        There are literally thousands of other sites you could spend your time on, buddy. Have fun out there.

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    CNN: What types of cancers are linked to HPV?

    Wen: HPV is associated with a range of cancers in both men and women. In women, the most well-known is cervical cancer, but HPV can also cause cancers of the vagina and vulva. In men, HPV is linked to cancers of the penis, anus and the head and neck.

    Over 90% of anal cancer is caused by HPV. Oropharyngeal cancer, also called throat cancer, is highly associated with HPV as well, with about 70% attributed to HPV. And more than 60% of penile cancer is caused by HPV.

    CNN: Why has HPV vaccination historically been emphasized more for girls and women?

    Wen: The initial focus of the HPV vaccine was driven by the clear and direct link between HPV and cervical cancer, which is a major global health issue. According to the World Health Organization, cervical cancer is the fourth most common cancer in women globally, causing more than 660,000 new cases and around 350,000 deaths in 2022.

    Early clinical trials and public health campaigns prioritized preventing this specific cancer, so vaccination programs were first rolled out for girls. Over time, as more evidence accumulated about the burden of HPV-related disease in men, recommendations have expanded to include boys. However, public perception has lagged behind the science, and many people still think of this vaccine as primarily targeted for females.

    This is so awesome that the word is getting out about the benefits for boys and men!! I remember hearing about the positive outcomes for boys and men quite a few years ago, mostly because of the throat cancer issue with HPV.

    Everyone should get this vaccine! They upped the age limit to 45years old I think, so it’s available for even more people now as well.

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      They should raise the limit, 45 is still too young. Gen Xers don’t want cancer either and some of us havent been exposed. I had planned on getting it but I’ve been uninsured or poorly insured since the pandemic

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          I have a nurse practitioner and she seemed willing to consider it when I brought it up when I talked to her several months ago but insurance or not I’d likely be paying 500-1000 dollars out of pocket for all the doses and that’s just not feasible for me.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    First they say we don’t need it, then they say we’re too old for it, and finally they say it’s beneficial.

    Is this a game to you?

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      TLDR; whether you are male or female if you are under the age of 45, and insurance will pay for it, get the HPV vaccine. They won’t let you have it over 45 years old.

      Firs they say we don’t need it,

      When it initially came out supplies were low and the only known at-risk groups it was know to help directly were girls and young women, so they said, rightfully, men don’t need it at this time.

      then they say we’re too old for it

      Because at the time time it was thought that if you got one of the non-threatening strains of HPV that your body would already be primed to fight of a future infection of one of the few threatening strains. With nearly any vaccine there’s a negligible amount of health risks. If the research at the time said that there’d be no benefit to you, but you’d still be exposed to the negligible risk, then it made sense to say you were too old to benefit.

      There’s also a money thing here. The HPV vaccine isn’t particularly cheap. So the guidance is trying to save you from throwing money away. If you need it, the cost is well worth it, if it wouldn’t benefit you, the money paid for it would be wasted.

      then they say we’re too old for it, and finally they say it’s beneficial.

      Years passed with outcomes showing benefits for other not in the primary group of recipients (girls and young women). So, yes, now they’re telling you they have evidence that its helpful to you too.

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    well duh, of course it’s a clear benefit for me when my gf doesn’t get cervical cancer

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    The clear benefit for men is that they don’t have to see people they love die from cancer as often