Zelenskyy states Russia lost battlefield initiative in Dec 2025, arguing Ukraine has a diplomacy window before winter if sanctions pressure on Russia continues.
Are you talking about a new conflict and not the current literal invasion? Because they kinda already crossed that bridge. Then it got blown up like 2 or 3 times.
“Europe” is not a signatory to the Budapest memorandum. Neither is NATO, nor the EU. So how this applies to “Europe”, which is what the conversation you’re responding to is about, is a mystery at best.
The UK and US are signatories. NATO is not. Considering that NATO willfully violated the UN Charter (which the Budapest memorandum rests upon) by bombing Yugoslavia in 1999, as well as later actions, it’s a pretty selective to claim that that is applicable.
It’s the only one that has real experience with modern warfare and technology in this century. So they have know how.
It’s going to be the outpost for the new EU/Nato does not matter where it geographically is, maybe you took that too literally.
Why does Europe want to ally with Ukraine? That will cause the conflict with Russia that you’re presumably saying we need defense against.
Are you talking about a new conflict and not the current literal invasion? Because they kinda already crossed that bridge. Then it got blown up like 2 or 3 times.
Sorry, are you trying to claim that Russia has invaded an EU member?
No we use logic and not this back to the future Wodka brain trolling logic. Therefore we do not claim that, no…
Ok, so what literal invasion are you talking about?
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Europe includes Ukraine, and they are already allies, just without a mutual defense agreement.
Ukraine is not a member of any defense pact or the EU.
Ukraine receives security assurances under the Budapest memorandum (which Russia violated).
“Europe” is not a signatory to the Budapest memorandum. Neither is NATO, nor the EU. So how this applies to “Europe”, which is what the conversation you’re responding to is about, is a mystery at best.
The UK and US are signatories. NATO is not. Considering that NATO willfully violated the UN Charter (which the Budapest memorandum rests upon) by bombing Yugoslavia in 1999, as well as later actions, it’s a pretty selective to claim that that is applicable.
Europe also includes Russia
So Europe is supposed to support Ukraine against . . . Europe?