• Soulifix@piefed.worldEnglish
    1·
    9 minutes ago

    Not really. Did it prevent the 2016 general elections from happening in the way they did? Probably not, as much as the internet made it seem, at the time. There were a lot of faucets going on that lead to those results.

    And I’m going to say this too because it is applicable to every other scenario now that Harambe has been brought up. The US was already a fucked up country, long before Harambe and just another added on the long, long list of things wrong with the country after Harambe.

  • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@anarchist.nexusEnglish
    214·
    1 day ago

    Theory: the death of Harambe was the moment that an entire cohort realized that the world is a deeply unfair place. So Harambe represents when their innocent internal world fell apart. I.e., they were young at the time.

    The evils of the AmeriKKKan empire vastly predate poor Harambe’s death. It’s been a white supremacist, settler-colonialist, patriarchal capitalist project from the very moment white people landed here.

    • DylanMc6 [any, any]@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
      13·
      11 hours ago

      I don’t wanna sound like one of those “you said we should improve society, yet you live in it”. That said, you can say what you can say about the US (since you got the First Amendment), but how can say that yet you live in the US? Are you aware of the irony of living in the US in order to decry the country?

      • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@anarchist.nexusEnglish
        1·
        6 hours ago

        you can say what you can say about the US (since you got the First Amendment)

        I’m gonna be real with you: if I actually went out and said this shit in public, I would be arrested, First Amendment be damned. People are currently being arrested for saying way tamer stuff. I am relying on the simple fact that Lemmy is a tiny anti-capitalist platform that the government doesn’t know or care about. Law in AmeriKKKa binds the poor and protects the rich. It’s always been this way, e.g. gun control got implemented after the Black Panthers armed themselves after generations of being terrorized by white gun owners. It’s just that Trump and company are too cheap to even lie to you about it anymore.

        Don’t take this personally, but I truly find appeals to the Constitution as “oh look at the freedoms you’re using but decrying” meme to be particularly infuriating. Like I don’t oppose freedom of speech, I just want it to actually apply to everyone, and I want there to be negative consequences for fascists who use their freedom of speech to take freedom of speech and literally everything else away from everyone else.

        Are you aware of the irony of living in the US in order to decry the country?

        Yeah I was born here and I can’t get out and stay out. If I could magically get out and stay out, I would leave immediately, never return, and not even say goodbye to anyone in the States until I’m halfway around the world. I wouldn’t even sell or throw out my shit, I’d just go and never return. There’s zero fucking irony about being born in a shit hole I can’t escape.

        Whenever AmeriKKKa appeals to human rights… it’s a pretext for whatever awful bullshit they want to do. AmeriKKKa is less interested, than literally any other group in all of history so far, in preserving your human rights. They only ever care about human rights when they can be invoked to justify violating someone else’s rights.

        That doesn’t mean I reject freedom or the rights that AmeriKKKa pays lip service to. From a principled anarcho-communist position, i.e. a position where freedom of speech, freedom of thought, autonomy, consent, and equality are core values, I reject AmeriKKKa and its bullshit promises because it fails to even attempt these values, only ever using them as a cudgel to destroy people and movements who actually do want to live by these values. And no, there’s not a Platonic ideal version of AmeriKKKa that does implement these promises but is just a handful of bad apples from perfection. AmeriKKKa has always been a colonizing mission from minute one. You can’t fix that. AmeriKKKa needs to be 100% rejected. No exceptions. No subtlety. Clean break.

        • LostCarcosan@lemmy.today
          1·
          4 hours ago

          I’m gonna be real with you: if I actually went out and said this shit in public, I would be arrested, First Amendment be damned.

          No, you wouldn’t.

          Source: I spout this kinda shit constantly and am currently not arrested

          • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@anarchist.nexusEnglish
            1·
            2 hours ago

            Source: I spout this kinda shit constantly and am currently not arrested

            Good, hope you stay out of jail, and thank you for speaking out. But at the same time … people are being arrested for protesting Delaney Hall, and pro-Palestinian groups have been getting arrested since the Biden administration.

            Either you’ve not really said anything too politically incorrect (w.r.t. the Trump administration’s political dogma), you have been maintaining excellent security culture, you have the social skills required to deescalate monsters, you’re lucky, or some combination thereof.

  • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠@slrpnk.net
    8·
    1 day ago

    I personally think things took a turn after whatever dark forces the Chicago Cubs contracted with to evade their righteous and longstanding curse, but I guess the Harambe thing happened “first”.

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
    52·
    1 day ago

    The world would be better off if Hillary Clinton had been more ethical and less open to October surprises, but not by much. Dems are okay with poverty, genocide, and war too.