Video game staff has always been treated like shit by the big developers.
This is another case of the big developers trying to convince their staff that using slop (and, therefore, further devaluing the people) is a good thing.
If you make a game using “AI,” you’re standing on the shoulders of companies who became giants through theft and lies. They built algorithms, the algorithms stole, and now you’re being told to use those algorithms to benefit the companies who stole to build their databases.
Yes, it sucks. You’re in a no-win situation. Things will keep getting worse, the way they’ve been getting worse for game development staff for years.
Folks here will sympathize with your personal plight - unless you use the stolen databases yourself to earn your own livelihood. Because, once you do that, you unfortunately have become part of the problem. Even if you only did it to survive.
I’m not trying to argue the sentiment, but my guess is the people that downvoted me don’t want to hear about the physical limits.
Here’s a similar version: is the human the best interface for code? I’m not convinced. Humans make mistakes when typing, we forget things. I once spent 2 days on a bug back in 2018 because an array was named “Cards” and I referenced “Card.”
Obviously, we’re the end user. The EXPERIENCE is for humans. Are we the best tool to enter code manually? I’m just not convinced.
I’m hearing stories from my engineering friends and colleagues that, for the last 6 months, 90% of their code has been AI written. I believe the engineers are smarting than me here, and that’s what they are doing.
It’s a capitalistic hellscape, bad ethics everywhere, and I’m not trying to apologize for the companies being malicious or bad actors. I’m not saying I’m morally justified. Putting that aside: what benefits do I get from writing the code myself vs describing it, if describing it generates the end result faster?
Y’all, my whole career is this field. I study philosophy and ethics undergrad. I know people don’t want to hear about it. What would you do as a rational actor in this scenario? I got 3 kids and a mortgage. :/
I agree that unions are good checks against corporate power.
How does that change the speed game we’re against? You could say, “we won’t use AI!” but your competitor will & they’ll likely go faster.
There’s a growing rift here between “chatbot for memes & my college paper” and “it coded my entire game.” Most people don’t make software, so they haven’t seen this stuff yet, or they are skeptical because ChatGPT can’t count R’s in strawberry.
I don’t know how to effectively communicate these issues right now. It feels like there are real barriers here against humans. :(
Video game staff has always been treated like shit by the big developers.
This is another case of the big developers trying to convince their staff that using slop (and, therefore, further devaluing the people) is a good thing.
If you make a game using “AI,” you’re standing on the shoulders of companies who became giants through theft and lies. They built algorithms, the algorithms stole, and now you’re being told to use those algorithms to benefit the companies who stole to build their databases.
Yes, it sucks. You’re in a no-win situation. Things will keep getting worse, the way they’ve been getting worse for game development staff for years.
Folks here will sympathize with your personal plight - unless you use the stolen databases yourself to earn your own livelihood. Because, once you do that, you unfortunately have become part of the problem. Even if you only did it to survive.
I’m not trying to argue the sentiment, but my guess is the people that downvoted me don’t want to hear about the physical limits.
Here’s a similar version: is the human the best interface for code? I’m not convinced. Humans make mistakes when typing, we forget things. I once spent 2 days on a bug back in 2018 because an array was named “Cards” and I referenced “Card.”
Obviously, we’re the end user. The EXPERIENCE is for humans. Are we the best tool to enter code manually? I’m just not convinced.
I’m hearing stories from my engineering friends and colleagues that, for the last 6 months, 90% of their code has been AI written. I believe the engineers are smarting than me here, and that’s what they are doing.
It’s a capitalistic hellscape, bad ethics everywhere, and I’m not trying to apologize for the companies being malicious or bad actors. I’m not saying I’m morally justified. Putting that aside: what benefits do I get from writing the code myself vs describing it, if describing it generates the end result faster?
Y’all, my whole career is this field. I study philosophy and ethics undergrad. I know people don’t want to hear about it. What would you do as a rational actor in this scenario? I got 3 kids and a mortgage. :/
What would I do? Work to form a union, probably.
No, it’s not fair. But that’s the corporate hellscape we’re in.
I agree that unions are good checks against corporate power.
How does that change the speed game we’re against? You could say, “we won’t use AI!” but your competitor will & they’ll likely go faster.
There’s a growing rift here between “chatbot for memes & my college paper” and “it coded my entire game.” Most people don’t make software, so they haven’t seen this stuff yet, or they are skeptical because ChatGPT can’t count R’s in strawberry.
I don’t know how to effectively communicate these issues right now. It feels like there are real barriers here against humans. :(