• Steve@communick.news
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    5 days ago

    Wanting a different world, doesn’t mean you don’t have to live in this one for now. There is no contradiction here.

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      I think this is aimed more at the Hassans’ of the platform than small youtubers trying to educate and make a difference.

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      Making a living as a YouTuber / Influencer literally depends on capitalist methods. I.e the platforms (YouTube , Instagram, etc), and producing and selling merch. The entire idea of “content creation” is capitalistic.

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        No. Even in a socialist utopia, there’ll still be “influencers” who become famous online.

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          Famous ≠ Making money. But sure, please elaborate how one would do so in a socialist Utopia. Consider me all ears

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            Socalism is when people who work at a company, own the company, and share in the profits. But not everyone will want to do that. Some will still want to do their own thing. They’d be paid by people (viewers in this case) same as we do now.

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                  Probably not youtube, because in a truly open market with socialist rules, youtube would have fallen with its constant enshittification and be replaced with a more user/creater friendly alternative.

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                  But how would they buy YouTube in the first place? How would Google even be what it is today without rich shareholders pumping in money for decades? Without harvesting and selling user data?

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                    How far do you want to take this? Companies exist. They still would in a socialist economy.

                    Nobody is talking about a post scarcity world where money doesn’t exist, and nobody hast to work for a living.

                    But to answer your question they could get loans to fund the beginning, and once they reach critical size they can monotize the same way YouTube does now. Being employee owned doesn’t mean they can’t harvest data or charge subscriptions.